Sport Bike Body Position For The Street

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[snowblind]

Spine parallel to the bike, arms relaxed, and counter steer to lean the bike. So the body need not do anything extreme to upset the front end.
Also motogp body positions are a matter of extreme speeds (more speed, more lean required for a tighter turn) on a machine designed to do that with tyres to support and a maintained track (no oil, debris etc) where it's safe and every pro rider knows the basic safety and etiquette. So it would stand to reason that public roads are not the place to execute anything extreme because the conditions of a race track and race machine are not applicable.

[MotoTweak]

Yep my grandpa and I were just talking about those guys body position. It’s more old school. You have to admit the elbows down does look really cool though

[WDXash]

Absolutely spot on! I’ve been saying the same thing for yonks. I’m a track day instructor, for road riding there is no benefit to hanging off, it’s exactly as you say. Glad you have highlighted this, I just hope riders take note.

[iqjobs]

I do agree with you for the pace on this video but that's more like fast cruising pace than sport riding...at Higher speeds I really believe that to be on a much extreme "out of the bike body position" is must faster and safer. In the end is just physics..

[lozevans]

So pleased I saw this. I've seen so many videos saying you don't need to lean off the bike at all, just stay central and push your arse against the back of the seat hump etc.... After I practiced trail braking and counter steering "upright" I hated it! Felt like the bike was going to run wide. So I changed my body position to hanging right off, and as has been said on here. I felt disconnected. So I went to moving my arse 3 inches or so and lowering my head and it was an honest to god revelation combined with trail braking and counter steering. I feel safer, more stable, more in control and faster. And to me thats all that counts 🙂

[Andre-pyry]

I hope you will read this Greg. After you posted this video I couldnt wait to give it a try. I just returned; I did over 100 miles, I did not wanted to stop. I was passing curves with such a smoothenes and higher speed and felt safer than before. My chicken strips have 1 finger left which is an awesome safety buffer. Like you said I have more feedback and feel more connected to the bike. I enjoy riding but I want to come back to my daughter in one piece. Thank God Im living in a country which is motorcycle heaven. Furthermore I can see obstacles and slow vehicle much faster especially now when it is time of grape harvest and there can be tractors right after exiting right blind corner. Thank you Greg! 👍

[monkmoto]

Motorcycle riding is a sport that’s constantly evolving. No one’s found the perfect technique heck look at twist of the wrist, the way they taught to load up the rear tire on those old compounds it’s way different than how it’s taught now

[TheQuanzy]

That is perfect street riding. Total control, no showing off and a pleasure to watch. I've been riding 15 years and i get mocked every time for not 'hanging off the bike' being told i'm too stiff and i need to move around a lot more. Needless to say i've never had a crash or fall whilst the others trying to hang off the bike have slide numerous times. It's all about subtle control in which you have demonstrated in this video. Great riding!

[HemiBurns]

I get off and lean more "naturally" when I am going faster and the corner is sharper, otherwise I do what you do.
No need to get off excessively in a soft corner.
Also, these pro riders are in crazy physical condition to enable them do what they do.

[jamessidneybaguio]

Another great video! Now I know the correct body positioning, and what "over doing" it looks like. There are simply a lot of "bad examples" that I thought was the correct way. Good thing there are concerned people teaching the right way to do it. ❤😊

[coppo]

love your videos, learning so much for correct riding + focusing on my slow speed skills ..
not worrying about 'how much tyre i can rub' and 'hanging off the bike"....
on a side note, dude, how clean is your garage floor, like a bike operating theater, love it !!

those integrated indicators, wow, extra luxe

[overthoughtandunderstated]

This is the exact technique that I discovered feels most natural and efficient for me. I'm also on a Ninja 400, so "trying" to drag knee is just unnecessarily pulling that lightass bike down into a lowside

[scottwitt]

This ones got me messed up. I watch a lot of your videos and really value your opinion due to your experience. You have made videos before regarding body position, both upper and lower, that really helped me get faster on the track.

Body, head, bike. Half cheek off, extend leg, head by mirror, will all decrease lean angle with higher speed. This video is the complete opposite of what everybody teaches for speed, including YCRS.

[jakeRrr]

You just described exactly how I ride the twisties, thanks lol I feel affirmed. I think I move my head more than you did in that video, though. Also, I never freaking noticed that about Gagne. In my defense I usually watch motogp, I find it boring that Gagne just dominates everything all the time. I want to love it, I could, but currently I can't. But you're right, his positioning is way more relaxed. Neat.

[Bugside]

I've been moving at least the upper body and head inside since I started riding big bikes, and now if I try to make a sharp corner upright I feeling uneasy, since it requires way more lean than I'm used to

[pumassg]

Nice video! Riders should just do what’s best for them and within the comfort zone. I tend to hang off quite a bit to limit lean angle and it “feels” good to me. My coach is significantly faster than me and doesn’t touch knee at all. It’s all about comfort. I will say though, shifting weight to inside is scientifically better for the sake of reducing lean, increasing contact patch and offering more potential for drive. And Jonny is very capable of hanging off or doing a “hook turn”, he has plenty of photos with his elbow nearly down. That photo might be more of an outlier than the norm. Caveat; I’m talking about track riding. I haven’t been on the street in some years. Nonetheless, love your channel and keep at it.

[sivanyamurayama]

that bike looks nice, the intergrated turn signals i mean, instead of sticking out separately waiting to break if the bike falls down 😄 I really learn a lot from Motojitsu videos 👍

[alex.gallega]

This is how also motogp riders lean on their sighting lap, when their tyres are cold and they don't have to push the limits. It makes a lot of sense to use this technique in the street.

[TracerGTRider]

I have done a couple of "track days" at Pittsburgh International Raceway. Lee Parks Total Control has the contract for PA (side note: msf courses, including the advanced rider course at Pitt Raceway or the Poconos, are free to PA residents). They teach the Total Control technique of course, and I have always felt that it is more of a racing technique than a street riding technique. I have taken some things from the course to apply to street riding, but it is very challenging and very tiring to do this technique through consecutive tight twisties with advisory speeds of 20-35 mph.

Incidentally, I ride with some older guys who are super fast and super smooth through the tight twisties and they hardly move at all - its crazy to see how fast they are and how still they seem to be sitting!

[brendonarendse]

Even Alex Rinse is pretty much straight up, not a lot of lean angle, and his corner speed is one of the best. So I totally agree with you on the body position.