How the Hell can China Ship for Free to your Door??!?

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Seriously? Why does it cost more to send a postcard to my neighbor than it does for a Company in China to send a package 10,000 miles across the world???

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This is a much bigger problem than anyone realizes, but Amazon has benefitted from this loophole just as much as TEMU. Tons of listings on Amazon ship strait from China. Most of this stuff infringes our patents, copyrights, and trademarks.

paulmills
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I remember watching a news program a few years ago about a family in the US that invented an excellent rat trap. They had it patented at considerable cost and they started producing it in their garage, but as sales increased they had to rent a small factory. Sales continued to increase, then all of a sudden their sales dropped considerably.
On investigation they found a Chinese company had made a direct copy of their rat trap and were selling to the USA at around 25% of their price, mainly due to their reduced shipping cost from China to the USA. The small family business soon went out of business as they could not afford to enforce their patent in China and prevent the rat trap being sold into the USA.

garyradley
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I was an EBAY seller of Sterling silver bracelet beads and did this for eleven years. I was just a small-time seller, but managed to keep my head above water until the Chinese sellers entered the market, selling the beads at an impossible price. 1. Counterfeit merchandise, hallmarked as solid sterling, but just silver plated and 2. free shipping that costs Chinese vendors nothing. It became impossible for me to continue because I could not compete under those conditions.

ERMADELL
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This is probably one of the most important videos ever posted on Youtube.
It easily summarises both the geopolitical and economical entanglements that rule the world and that directly affect our daily life.
Watching and sharing this video is a civic duty
Hats off to @serpentza

psklpt
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What makes me mad is the lies. I have friends in Africa, Kenya, South Africa, Nigeria, and others, and they tell me that sending something to China costs a fortune, but getting something from China is incredibly cheap. So while they say this is to help developing nations it's actually a lie, try and get someone to send a package from an African nation to China and see how much it costs. There something else going on here, and it has nothing to do with "developing nation" status. They're lying about this.

EliJon
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The problem is that if you buy something from your local store all they do is buy it from China and overcharge you

uwfizgt
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How the hell does a nation with a space program, nuclear weapons with delivery mechanisms, high speed rail, and is likely the second largest economy considered a "developing" nation?

terrancenorris
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I was in SE Asia manufacturing machinery. My American CEO wanted to sell to China. I didn't like it as I knew they would strip our product and reverse engineer it and copy it! We had spent a lot of design and engineering time on the units we were wanting to sell. It was a market leader. We obtained patents for our products. I still advised the CEO against sending units to China. Well guess what, we did send units and shortly the Chinese were trying to sell to our customers! The CEO left the company afterwards!

senianns
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Paid $22 to ship a small item 1/2 inch wide and 4 inches long in a padded envelope from Canada to the USA. Took 3 weeks to get to the destination. At the same time I bought a diesel heater that weighs 40kg from china and it was free shipping, took 3 weeks to get from China to Canada. The game is rigged.

BorealMushroomms
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You are right, I get bombarded daily by these Temu junk ads. They should regulate and put a brake on it. So irritating. Thanks for bringing this up.

Silverfox
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I'm endeavouring to avoid all Chinese made products, but it's almost impossible due to companies not being made to be totally transparent.

Tom_-
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One experience i had is that i needed a very niche and specific cable which cost $1 on Aliexpress and all sellers on Ebay and Amazon (who probably procured the product from Aliexpress) were selling it for upwards of $10. In a situation like this I can't find a way to justify paying 10 times more for the exact same product when China wins either way.

puya
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Wow, ... I never realized that our US postal service was getting bled dry financially by having to handle the countless tens of millions of packages from China !

alejandrovargas
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Sold something small on ebay and had to pay 17€ shipping fee to send from one EU country to the next. By postal rule, any non-document for the past years has to be labled as package, no matter how small it is. I was deeply upset, that I am punished like this, when I decide to trade with someone within the EU-zone, the place where we should have better deals and work together. Meanwhile I can get anything from alibaba getting shipped for almost free. This was the last time I sold something to a foreign country, it's just too expensive.

NightpireVideos
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I found a couple of chairs via Etsy for $200 but the cost of shipping was $250 from Florida to Delaware… our Giverments kept telling us “we cannot compete with with Chinese Labor” but the fact is WHO can compete when the TAX PAYER picks up the shipping from Shanghai to your door!

TheGeoDaddy
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I make à point to never use products that are made or are from China
I'm an electronic technician and sometimes my customers are annoyed because the parts cost à little more BUT when I explain why I do this and why I only put high quality parts in their devices, they are happy to pay a little more to have high quality parts from Japan, Taiwan, Malaysia and India in their expensive devices. (I repair and restore high-end sound systems and amplifiers, from 1000$ to 50K$ of markets value) I give them 2 years of guarantee on the work AND parts. I do this since the lates 80's and never had to re-do a job because of defective parts or anything else for that matter.

xminusone
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I paid about $5 postage for something from Hong Kong, it cost $42 in US postage to send it back for warranty repair!

misfitsailor
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That was extremely well put. It's a very important issue. We all need to stop buying junk from China.

jublywubly
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We should reverse the subsidy so it’s cheaper to ship within your own country. The issue is that Amazon sells the exact same products as Temu but at a markup, and with a yearly member cost

ravioli
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As someone who has extensively researched the postal industry, I have to point out that your video contains a lot of incorrect and outdated information.

The subsidised shipping rates you're referencing are referred to as terminal dues. Terminal dues are never free (for obvious reasons) and are only subsidised for developing countries. The UPU does not allow its members to self-declare their economic status (as you've implied) to benefit from cheaper terminal dues. The economic status for member countries is based on two things - their GDP and their Human Development Index (HDI). This doesn't mean to say this is always a fair representation of their actual economic status.

Additionally, you failed to point out that the trump administration already took action to stop China from benefiting from subsidised terminal dues when he threatened to leave the UPU. This prompted an emergency meeting and forced the UPU to make changes (which was definitely a good thing for the American tax payer). Countries with high international shipment volumes, such as the USA, can now self declare there own terminal due rates. With this change, the Trump administration agreed to remain a member of the UPU.

One last point - there is no such thing a "free" shipping for e-commerce companies - even before the aforementioned changes to the UPU took place. Companies like Temu have to ship its parcels via China Post to receive any subsidised terminal dues (if any) as China Post is the designated operator (DO) for China. And China Post does not allow companies like Temu to ship for free. If China Post did that, it would come at the cost of the Chinese tax payer. Additionally, once China post has processed a parcel, they then need to pay for a company for the airfreight or sea-freight. The cost for this is not footed by the American tax payer.

China's postal system is highly advanced, with automation that provides a significant advantage in terms of economies of scale. This, combined with low labor costs and a relatively less stringent regulatory environment, has enabled China to offer cost-competitive shipping solutions.

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