How the Coming Population Collapse Will Change Society Forever

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[cmbaileytstc]

Here’s the real question: How is everything more expensive when productive tech is better than ever and the number of consumers is falling?

[ReturnOfHeresy]

"The worst thing you can do for the environment is have children."

I remember hearing that all the time.

[rake]

I want to have kids, but i simply can't afford them. The rent of an apartment large enough for a family is like 110% of my income.

[LMaudy]

There’s a trend in China called “laying flat” ei, not working or working the minimum, retire and die, me and a lot of people I know keep asking the question: what was I born for? Why bother.

[nrjmsoj]

Life is unaffordable, taxes are punishing, while governments are evil. There is your trouble.

[AceKite]

We were educated to live in a world that no longer exists.

[intellectually_lazy]

maybe the problem isn't there was too many rats, but they were trapped, captive, held hostage in a dystopia, like has been done to us

[pickleman]

seen this happen in canada starting in my childhood. my elementary school when i entered had over 450 kids, which was big for the accommodation. by the time i was grade 6 it was less than 40 kids. next year it closed. along with a handful of other schools. the jobs are utterly worthless here. nothing genuinely gainful. most young people have 100% given up. no work if no reward

[neondystopian]

In order to want human civilization to continue, you must first value human life.

[iulius]

You made basic goods a luxury. So having children is also luxury.

[Dan-jtji]

Why would anyone want to have a kid that will only serve the purposes of those more fortunate...

[dogsandyoga]

I have 2 sons, 24 and 19. One (currently) has no interest in becoming a parent, and the other says someday, but he wants to establish himself BEFORE taking on such an immense financial responsibility.

[Jonathan_Collins]

The primary reason why people aren't having kids in industrialized nations is because most people are aware that their kids will have a lower standard of living than they did. Real wages have barely moved since the 80's, while cost of living is up several fold. And the trend is only getting worse. Looking to immigration for a solution is like treating a symptom without addressing its cause.

[CatsMeowPaw]

The problem is multi faceted. There is no one key solution.
1. Having children is very expensive
2. Women want to work, and often are forced to work due to rising cost of living
3. Men and women are being taught to hate one another in countless media articles
4. Men are going their own way, while women are being told they need no man
5. People want to travel and have careers. Loads of hobbies and sports. Masses of entertainment. Children sap resources to do these.
6. Easy access to spicy videos and other content for men means they're slapping the sausage instead of finding a woman
7. Women have been told for decades to demand a top man. Top earning, top height, top looks.
8. For South Korea, China and Japan, long work hours means parents have no energy or time for children
9. And many more reasons.

[intellectually_lazy]

they'll still extract all the resources, but not because there are too many people, just the greediest of us are too greedy

[SamFlightlevel]

There is an old arabic proverb that says: „ blessed are the idiots that have no idea of what is going“

[reecemartin]

When you create a world not worth living in and wonder why we don't want to breed.

[erikdaigle]

I like that the electric vehicle "revolution" ended up with new vehicles needing 2 different engines and an 80, 000 dollar price tag.
Never saw that coming.

[khiobi]

How is anyone supposed to have children when the average rent is $1700 and the average cost of groceries per person is $300!?

[Petroupas]

Imagine peeing in a plastic bottle due to overworking so that Bezos can have his $500 mil yacht...