Miles is NOT an Anomaly! | Across the Spider-Verse Theory

If Canon Events aren't real... is Miles really an anomaly?

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse has a LOT for us to unpack. From Miles Morales, to Miguel O'Hara, and even to Hobie Brown, this movie is riddled with questions. Can we answer all of them to finally figure out the true story behind the Spider-Verse series?

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[RemGames]

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[yungflashbeats]

The fact that hobie knows how to reverse engineer future tech from the year 2099 is crazy to me now that i think about it. And so fast too

[dtghost]

I doubt there's only one Miles in the Spiderverse, I think Miguel just didn't want any in the headquarters cuz there was a Miles that was an anomaly

[EBirchall]

I'm going to say: Hobie doesn't time travel, but his backstory gives him the knowledge and experience on how to break oppressive systems. He knows he'll need his own watches keep the power "in the people's hands" rather than just Miguel's - (and to keep big brother from surveilling everyone through the watches, like, how creepy is that? You think Hobie wouldn't hate that?)

And he clearly knows how to smash barriers, he made quick work of Spot's, because he knows that the prison system in the society is their main control method other than the watches. He's studied how to break them, he saw that Miles was able to affect the barrier and offered his expertiese in how to smash it next time - giving power to the people (knowledge this time not tech) - and Miles listens, learns, and revolts; so Hobie smirks in pride.

Nothing sinsister here, just a punk revolutionary on a mission to undermine all Miguel's control systems, and lay the foundation for a revolution. And it works! Gwen steps up. Movie 3 is going to be awesome!

[dgmilloway]

I'm of the opinion that Miles is an anomaly, but that this is a good thing because anomalies and canon events do not work the way Miguel thinks it does.

I don't think Hobie has seen the future. He just knows authoritarianism when he sees it. He actually tried to keep Miles from going to Nueva York, so in not sure how had a plan in advance since Miles ignored the warning.

Hobie is also incredibly emotionally intelligent. He knows Gwen. He quickly figures out Miles. He knows Miguel will try to prevent Miles from going back home. It's not hard for him to figure out what will happen next once Miles runs.

He knows that in the end Gwen will most likely defend Miles and when she does, Miguel will send her home. He didn't know for sure. That's why he left the note, "In case things didn't work out."

[leeul]

2:44 Even when Miguel identified him as Miles Morales, Spider-mans were confused when they saw Spider-man with four arms. And Miguel asked him to look back, and Miles was hiding behind his back. Eventually, Spider-Mans realised that Miles was the one to catch because he started running away.

[jonutley]

I think Miguel is actually a Prowler variant not a spiderman variant. He doesn't have a Spider sense, he has claws like Prowler, his webs are far more techy than any of the other spiderman variants we see (even the Indian one has a web between his), his music when he's chasing Miles is a Prowler theme, and he is way more into tech than spider powers. Even Miles says "you have claws? Dude, are you sure you're even as spiderman?

My theory is that he is a Prowler that jumped universes and took out the Spiderman version of himself in the other universe to have his family. This is what caused the collapse of the universe. I'd further add, that the reason why he's chasing Miles is because he knows that there is also a Prowler variant of Miles (IMO he's a good guy per all the sinister six Easter eggs in universe 42) that could potentially take him down.

[samwill]

My theory is that Miguel is doing his best with the information he's got. Going back to the comics, while he's always been a grump (hard not to be when you come from corpocratic dystopia, especially standing next to the other Spider People) he's also always been a hero, doing his best to fight the good fight in the same way any other Spider Man does. He's not going to intentionally make other people's lives worse or hurt other knowingly. It's not who he is.

[ivancoulibaly]

If Miles IS in fact an anomaly, and he isn't supposed to be Spiderman, the rules of the Canon events shouldn't apply to him. If he didn't qualify for the SPIDER SOCIETY because he was an anomaly, then he shouldn't have to have a canon event. You might be thinking "Maybe he can't be part of the society because he didn't have a canon event yet." Remember that Pavitr got accepted 6 MONTHS before his canon event which didn't even happen in the end.

If Miles Isn't an anomaly and has to have a canon event happen to him, He shouldn't have to let his father die. Uncle Aaron's death should qualify as a canon event. Saying that this doesn't count would be false. During Miguel's presentation, it was portrayed as a canon event. Plus, According to Miguel, A canon event is something that helps all members of the society improve and become a better Spiderman. This is exactly what happens during the first movie. Miles becomes a better Spiderman when he goes to avenge Uncle Aaron and stop Kingpin.

Either way, NOBODY SHOULD BE stopping Miles from trying to save his father.

[drowninginideas_]

I don’t remember where else I saw someone say this but like whoever said it, I believe that the Miguel really does believe the canon events are real because of these traumatic events have happened to to him and he doesn’t want to believe that he just got unlucky and that everything is random so he created this narrative about canon events as a coping mechanism because to him, there must be a reason these horrible things have happened and many other spider people feel the same way so they believe it too. I feel like Miguel truely believes he’s doing good and preventing people the pain he experienced when that universe collapsed when in reality, he’s causing more pain.

[plasmatic]

I just figured out on my own, idk if you mentioned this before but if Miles is an anomaly from being bit by the alternate earth Alchemax spider and he wasn’t supposed to become spider-man and Peter Parker and Uncle Aaron weren’t supposed to die, why would Aaron Davis be dying in Miles’ arms directly from ITSV be shown when Miguel is explaining canon events?

[mightbemolin]

I just came back from the cinema watching this movie again and I noticed that right before he sends gwen back to her dimension she questions if he even knows what will actually happen if miles saves his dad and he pauses, then he turns around and ominously asks if she wants to find out.. From that scene I think it's pretty clear that he doesn't actually know for sure which strengthens your theory, thought that was interesting

[BurstFlare]

One thing I need to point out. When Miguel specifies which Spider-Man to stop, he also states which gate Miles is coming from, so that could potentially be a big reason why they know which specific Miles to go after. Not saying you're wrong at all about that, I just wanted to bring up another possibility.

[ceilinh]

There's no evidence that the interdimentional watch Hobie made for Gwen is the only one he has made. In fact, given that we see no evidence of his continued presence in Gwen's universe after he delivers a watch to Captain Stacy, it is likely that he has a second (at least) watch that he has kept for himself. Without his own watch, travelling to Gwen's universe would put Hobie at risk of glitching out before his presence was detected, and he could be returned to his own reality.

Given what we know of Hobie's character, and how we see Miguel and the Spider Society tracking members through their watches, it seems likely that Hobie would be unwilling to rely on the watch provided by the Spider Society. He is there to keep tabs on what they are doing, but would not want them tracking him in return, or controlling his access to interdimensional travel. Therefore, I suspect that if he did not already have his own interdimensional watch before he was recruited to the Spider Society, he put one together quickly after he joined so that he would have more freedom of movement to investigate what Miguel is doing.

At the Spider Society, we see Miguel keeping tabs on other universes through windows on his computer. I think it is reasonable to speculate that Hobie, clever fellow that he is, (making his own interdimensional watches, etc.) would be able to put together something similar, which would allow him to see that Gwen would need a watch. He has probably also seen other iterations of Miles as Spider Man, since he would know that Miguel sees our Miles as a huge anomaly, and would realise that Miguel has developed a prejudice against all instances of Miles Morales as Spider Man because of it (which explains why there are none in the Society.) He has probably been watching our Miles, as well as various other Spider Miles' to form his own conclusions, rather than blindly trusting in Miguel's narrative. He could easily have observed another, more experiened, Spider Miles using his powers, and passed along the tip to help our Miles.

Anyway, this is getting long, so, I'm out- 😁

[autismtony]

One thing I like about ATSV is during Miles' walk to Miguel's main area, you can see Hobie sneaking in any kind of tech materials to make his own Spider Society watch, which he later gives to Gwen near the end.

[Rainkdstation]

The Special Session theory also ties into Hobies idea of not believing in consistency as it kind of ties into these “canon events” not being consistent and him realizing.

[mcarpen]

I think the movie is heavily foreshadowing that Miguel is lying. Multiple people point out that he's different from the others. Peter B says "how come you're not funny? Spider-people are supposed to be funny" and then later Miles says "are you sure you're even a spider-man?" Shortly after this, Miguel straight up says that *Miles* is not supposed to be spider-man and that Miles is an anomaly. I think this is foreshadowing that Miguel is creating unnecessary anomalies in the multiverse by trying to enforce this rigid structure on the spider-man story. When Miles asks how they know what is supposed to happen, Lyla says "what's what the model says." Who made this "model" and how do they know it's accurate?

The first movie ended with Miles saying "anyone can wear the mask." The second movie splits the spider-people into two factions. One faction says "anyone can wear the mask as long as they follow the canon" and the other faction disagrees with that. The third film will probably need to explain why Miguel is wrong and why Miles and co are right.

[jeremyballer]

Miles may be an anomaly but he’s definitely not a mistake.
If the Web of Life and Destiny is the source of the Spider-Sense like it is in the comics we need to look at instances of it more closely.

The Spot ran a test on the collider which brought the spider that bit Miles from another dimension but it wasn’t the only spider. That test also brought Gwen to 1610. In Into the Spider-verse she says that her spider sense guided her to visions academy, where she met Miles before he was even bitten.

In Pav’s dimension we see Miles’ spider sense when Singh is in danger. But he’s the only one.

When Gwen senses that Miles is in the wrong universe it seems as the the Web of Life and Destiny has been playing a part in all of this likely to be revealed in the next movie.

[unrulycrow]

Omg you managed to articulate what I was thinking, with Miguel being potentially wrong (I do think he may be wrong on his hypothesis/own experiences, because he may be an antagonist but he doesn't strike me as an actual villain). What bothers me in that regard is how in many universes, Alchemax has a collider. This is so extremely suspicious, considering what happened with just the one from Earth 1610. This is why I do think Miguel may be wrong on the cause AND the target of his hypothesis. At the same time, when Miguel talks about the death of the captain, Hobie is the ONLY ONE who doesn't seem emotionally moved - it is not canon compliant, and yet Hobie and his universe seem totally fine. Hobie is also the only one who has similar powers to Miles, and in the comics Hobie started as The Prowler - which Miles 42 has become to fight against the Sinister Six. Hobie has a very different perspective on everything, and I can't wait to see more of him in the next movie. He's got to understand something Miguel may have missed. WHAT DO YOU KNOW, HOBIE.

[NathanielJamesProd]

Okay, really big thing to point out, Insomniac Spider-man is wearing his Spider-man 2 PS5 suit, the game where he is teamed up with Miles Morales in it.

Also, did anyone realize, when Hobie is stealing things from Miguel's lab, he's building the watch for Gwen, right then. This was all his plan from the beginning.