What if Germany never invaded the Soviet Union?

The Germans famously invaded the Soviet Union under Operation Barbarossa, which many claim online was the reason why Germany lost the war. This is seen as Germany’s biggest mistake, and some say it’s worse than declaring war on the United States.

Due to the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, Germany and the Soviet Union signed a 10 year long non-aggression pact, which Germany broke 2 years later. But what would happen if the Germans decided not to go down this suicidal mission and decided to focus on being the masters of all of Europe.

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[Shaveyle]

it’s 1941 and a young German boy is listening to the radio. On the radio Hitler announces that Germany is declaring war on the United States.

The boy asks, “Father, where is the United States?”

“Here, let me show you, ” His father responds and points at a map of North America.

The boy then asks, “We are at war with Russia too, right? Where’s that?”

The father then points at a map of the Soviet Union.

“I think we’re also at war with the British, ” the boy says. “Where on the map are they?”

The father then points at the British isles and the numerous British colonies, dominions, and protectorates.

“And where are we, father?” The boy questions.

The father, starting to become annoyed by his son’s constant questioning, finds Central Europe and points out Germany.

The young boy processes what he has just been told for a moment.

“Father.”

“What now?” The father responds.

“I have one more question.”

“What is it?”

“Has Hitler seen this map?”

[akuljbaba]

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[Annaeus]

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[Neko-exce]

I really love your interactive history video. You should do that again, but with WWII.

[Cobalt_Law]

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[lljkgktudjlrsmygilug]

You are aware that you can say a rogue assassin managed to place a bullet in the Austrian Painter? Not everything needs a grand plot involving the leadership of the most powerful governments in the world.

[CountryBallsartsyear]

So if the Soviet Union had joined the Germans and won the allies, then the Great Patriotic War would have started anyway, but only without a second front.

[richardjbarlow]

You are mistaken about one thing. Invading the Soviet Union was necessary and not irrational. Germany and occupied Europe did not have enough resources to sustain its economies and militaries. The British were blocking trade to all nations trading with Germany, including neutral Sweden. They knew from WW1 that they could starve out the Germans and this was why the Germans wanted to take the farmlands, coal and oil in the Ukraine and Caucuses. One of the reasons they failed is the German generals ignored Hitler and focused the forces on Moscow instead, thinking that the Russians would capitulate. However, Hitler was fighting an economic war and not a military one. He believed that if he took their food and fuel, then the Soviet Union would collapse. This is not irrational but it was taking far longer than he realised, partially because lend lease was literally keeping them alive.

If they attacked and took Ukraine and the Caucuses in the first year, then maybe victory is possible. However, it would help if Japan attacked in the east and did not attack the USA for another couple of years. If the USA stayed out for longer, then the Russians would lose the means to fight. It would be better to defeat 1 enemy at a time for the Axis.

[danielsantiagourtado]

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[SPYROUS-wifn]

germany would sue for peace? didnt germany already do that and churchill rejected him hundres of times

[titojaeden]

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[GeneralGrievousCIS]

I don't think you necessarily need a full Army coup to get someone in power in Germany who wasn't going to attack the Soviets.

If you believe Hermann Goring (at the time Hitler's designated successor), this was what he had to say about his opinion of Barbarossa when asked at Nuremburg.

"Question: What was your attitude towards the German attack on the Soviet Union?

Answer: I always opposed the war with Russia. When I learned about Hitler's military plans against the USSR, I was horrified. All aviation was thrown to the West and acted against the British at that time. The tasks facing our aviation were far from complete, and in the event of war with Russia, we would have to transfer about half of the planes to the Eastern Front. I had repeatedly tried to dissuade the Fuhrer from his intentions to fight the USSR, but the Fuhrer was obsessed with the war against Russia, and I could not deter him. I thought that the war against the USSR was inexpedient."

Goring was always fairly reluctant about provoking additional enemies (per reports about his stance on pre-war invasions) and was, by Nazi standards, pragmatic and self-interested. Would not be surprised if the stalled 1941 Axis-Soviet talks actually went somewhere with him, given he'd still be looking to find some way to scare Britain into surrendering and the proposed Soviet attack on the British occupied middle east could fit the bill.

[AustraliaOceania]

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[leventematyas]

was that normal leader 1 from hoi4 at 0:47?

[danielsantiagourtado]

Suggestion: What if Justinian ignored the west after the conquest of África?

[theChaosKe]

I would say the scenario where the allies join up with germany against the sowjets sounds very interesting and should be worth a video.

[SAR_DUS]

You could tell Hitler that he will get a -5 stab hit if he invades the USSR early…

[midiez]

I have noticed a recurring pattern in your recent videos: you start to diverge from reality in certain areas, but instead of branching out further, you orchestrate additional "events" that force the story back into its original path. Here's a particular standout: we have a massive deviation, if not one of the most significant in this type of scenario – no Nazis in power anymore and a mild peace settlement. The idea that the USA (and possibly even France) would later be drawn into the war is very far-fetched and gives the whole video more of a narrative feel rather than a "what if" scenario.

[Stejers]

But wouldnt the restored france be under the vichy government since it was still in german hands as of this peace treaty?

Cuz i dont see while germany would abandon the control over a neighboring major power that could give them a LOT of trouble in the future

Id think the peace treaty with britain would see all ocupied land the germans had be puppeted or at least put under control over german friendly government since britain wouldnt have much to do about it