What If Germany Never Invaded the Soviets?

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[ryankline]

"Whoops, Italy didn't defend its coastline properly" spoken like someone who has had to save Italy's ass one too many times in hoi4

[ACommontater]

I'd love to see an alternate history where the Commune of Paris succeeded in establishing a communist state of France, or at least some level of Socialism, that causes an alignment with the Soviets or possibly another civil war with the rest of the French who want the Republic back.

[alexungureanu]

This case scenerio is even worse when you think that the main reason why Romania helped Germany is the reconquest of bassarabia from the soviets, if this doesn't happen, Romania probably will not be so willing to help which means that Germany will have even more problems with oil then they have in our time.

[undeadtrile]

Honestly it's refreshing to see a ww2 althistory video that doesn't go super man in the high castle mode and stays realistic, thank you, yet another banger of a video

[saalok]

Funniest part about "Germany Wins WW2" scenarios tend to be that they pretty much rely on Nazi Germany just... not being Nazi Germany. Which at that point you might as well just write fiction or give them alien technology for the extra kick.

[plasmakitten]

The ultimate goal of Germany was to destroy the Soviet Union, but the reverse also was true. Stalin only agreed to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, because despite popular perception, he was fully aware of the inadequacies of the Soviet military, and he knew that he needed more time. Given perhaps another few years, the Soviet Union was fully prepared to launch their own Barbarossa. It may come in 1943, 1944, or years later still, but it will come - and in a best case scenario, the Germans would take a decade or more to starve out Britain. There just isn't enough time.

[hbdhjdiwdiijwdijdwji]

Hitler: We won't invade the USSR, take that Reds!

Stalin: Oh, ok, thanks. Anyway, we are invading you.
ROughly as I predict it

[JLAvey]

Given their ideologies, war between the two was inevitable. Stalin knew it and expected Germany to attack once it came to terms with Britain. After all, Germany lost the Great War partly because they fought on multiple fronts. There's no way they would make the same mistake again, right? It's not that outlandish, since it appeared they learned the lessons of not getting caught up in trench warfare in France again.

[chaosmaxkim]

These were the longest 7 days of my life. Welcome back my favorite Dutch man

[MaineMapper]

I like seeing these videos where he explains why these alternate events didn’t happen, a lot of alt history stuff just doesn’t make a cent of sense

[danielsantiagourtado]

Yes! Been waiting For this one! Thanks PH!

[keizervanenerc]

Scenario idea: what if French troops were allowed to move into Belgium into 1938-1940 and/or what if Luxembourg & Belgium agreed to extend to maginot line to their countries.

[benismann]

I really enjoy the explanation of why things didnt and couldn't go certain ways. Makes it a lot more educational than most alternative history content

[danielsantiagourtado]

PH! Huge fan from Colombia! Suggestion: What if everything went perfectly For Colombia after independence? 🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴

[thevettegetsitwett]

The Allie’s successfully invading requires far more imagination than Germany not attacking the Soviets. The Germans were pasting the British and by 1944 the Allie’s were still worried about D-Day without a massive eastern front and losses any landing troops would be eliminated quickly. They would never take Africa without the United States and Germany would help the Italians take North Africa.

[-Q-lkli]

I think the landings in europe in the scenario where the USSR stays peaceful all the way, is way to early. Not only would the axis have millions more soldiers to defend against landings, even if they kept a big force in reserve against the soviets. 
But I also doubt that the american public would be optimistic fighting against Germany with no strong allies, while also figh ting against Japan. At that point the german army was still sean as extremely powerful. The british together with the french weren’t able to stop from rapidly conquering mainland europe. So I think the american public wouldn’t have much hope in just the british alone.

[vrabb]

I think "What if Turkey joined the Axis in WW2?" could make an interesting video!

[Gloxeri]

Huge respect to you and your channel man! Not many use as good and understandable arguments in their Videos as you do keep it up man!

[beanmaster]

What if Germany never invaded WEST? A timeline where Hitler calls the Allies' bluff and just never attacks France and Belgium, instead invading the USSR in summer 1940, potentially telling the Finns to hold out past March 1940. I would watch that video 50000 times. Would Moscow be taken?? Would the Allies ever invaded Germany? Especially if a peace deal is signed between the Nazis and whatever remains of the Soviets?

[randomdudeoti]

It is possible that the Germans could’ve won the air battle with Britain had they started earlier and focused on military targets. There’s actually an article that explains how it increases the chances of German victory in the air significantly.