Magnus Carlsen on the Stonewall System

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From the interview "Chess and the Art of War: Strategies That Win, from Grandmaster Magnus Carlsen" by Milken Institute

What do you think of The Stonewall Attack?

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The kid probably plays more stone wall now lol

mellamoakshay
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"things can only go upward" sigma stonewall mindset 🗿

novm
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Everyone saying you don’t understand what he’s saying just need to listen.

Jammy-ovvy
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Magnus is ambiguous, not revealing the advantages and disadvantages of the stone wall haha.

bharatheshbadadamath
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One of the great things about the Stonewall is that you're making some positional concessions early on... 😂❤

elindauer
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Keeping in mind there is dues paying to learning chess. It is an extremely deep and complex game and you have to play openings to learn openings. We need to be aware of what attacking possibilities there are out of each opening we play, and we can't just blindly go on autopilot. The Stonewall is similar to the London, the main idea here is for players up to about 1300-1400 to keep the opening principles. The main advantage to these system openings is that you short-circuit a lot of the "trick" openings: fool's mate, scholar's mate, fried liver and you decline basically all gambits. Castle as soon as possible, connect your rooks and start attacking. I still see the elite players do these things, they are just slighly more oblique with it, maybe a different move order, and they attack a little earlier.

Chunda
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I used it 1, 000 times. My only opening for White. I've beaten players I could never dream of beating without it. Not often, of course. but here and there. My hands would tremble! Lol. If my opponent is at my level? I often BURY THEM. The advantage of playing it regularly? You will instantly recognize bad and wasteful moves by Black. Plus, you will seldom get crushed early, and often, YOU will be the one dictating play. One thing I've noticed? If things don't go as planned, often the first one to castle gets into trouble. Sometimes, it's okay to keep your king in the middle when your opening doesn't go as planned. And yes, I often get my first seven moves with my pieces on their desired squares. I always take my time in the opening as well. I pretend I'm "thinking, " I dont want my opponent "smelling a trap." Don't want him trying to remember, "Oh, what works best against this stonewall?"

lawrenceehrbar
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Same is true about the 1.g4, 2. f3 system. I mean, can it really get much worse afterwards?

u.v.s.
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Q: My 11 year old son is rated 1500 and constantly beats me with the Stonewall. How do I convince him to play a different opening so I can beat him?

dr.floridamanphd
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You asked Magnus about openings and expected a human response?

Mikejones
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The questioner didn't specify Stonewall Attack (w/White) or Stonewall Dutch Defense (w/Black).

DBobbyscomedynews
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Bro the kid who played Elton John in the movie could play magnus easy if there ever was a movie made

TheFn
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Thanks, Magnus. Rather partial to the Stonewall myself.

robertnicholas
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i want to know about magnus feels about the dutch

wesleyblack
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He doesn’t sound very sure of his answer.

mbarrett
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11 year old 1500 rated player LMFAO i'm fucking rolling

moltargaltar
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Umm, can someone explain his answer for me please? I kinda didn't get his point at the end there.

musical_lolu
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Magnus really doesnt explain chess very well. Im not sure what the explanation is for that. Albert Einstein once said "If you can't explain it simply, then you don't understand it well enough". However, I don't believe that is the case here, that Magnus doesn't understand different aspects of chess well enough to explain them. I don't know Magnus well enough to be able to diagnose the situation. Anyway, basically what he is trying to say, I believe, about the stonewall opening is that you make certain square weaknesses (positional), and the struggle is real from the very onset of the opening. You have positional strengths and weaknesses however in this opening. The key is neutralize the effect of the weaknesses while simultaneously using the strengths to better your position. Really the opening is good for him because he has a innate ability to understand where his pieces need to be in such situations. He feels he can make use of the positives while subduing the negatives.

lukepuque
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Magnus is a brilliant Master of Chess but he sucks at explaining Chess tactics and theories. Maybe it's English which is the reason or he can't convert his thoughts into words, I don't know.

Qammar_GGMU
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And why would I listen to a human his ridiculous opinion about chess that he knows nothing about. I'll pay attention when he beats stockfish or Alfa zero. Before that he's just another patzer.

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