Analyst says someone plugged headphones into Libby's phone | Trial Day 16| DELPHI DEBRIEF

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A digital forensic examiner testified Tuesday in a Carroll County courtroom.

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Never in my life have I seen a case against someone that leads to so many doubts. He’s been in prison for 2 years on what evidence? A shell case that wasn’t even used in the murders that COULD have been cycled through his gun!? You’ve already ruined this man’s life. I believe he is innocent and if he truly
Is I pray the jury finds him not guilty. This is scary for every American.

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I've been an iPhone repair technician for 12+ years. Yes, water and dirt can cause a headphone jack on an iPhone to register that something is plugged in. However, if it was indeed water or dirt that was causing the phone to think that there was something plugged into the jack, then it would have never started registering that it was no longer plugged in. The water and dirt would have damaged the jack and that's why you get false readings. Meaning the phone would have needed to be repaired for it to stop registering that nothing was no longer plugged in or it would have needed to be removed from the water and dried out. There is a possibility, if dried out, the phone would start functioning correctly again. In these circumstances, that would have been impossible since the prosecution is claiming that the phone was under her foot the whole time. The prosecution’s theory is impossible. A phone can’t start operating correctly again if it’s not either dried out and hope it works or if it’s repaired.

RedMissileGaming
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I really enjoyed this debrief! Thank you ladies for doing an amazing job at gathering information and reporting on it!!!!

nicolerain
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The jury in the trial for the step-mother that killed Gannon Stauch also were able to ask questions. I think it’s so helpful.

BeABetterPersonToday
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This prosecution and this judge and these law enforcement officers have made me lose any and all faith I have had in the Justice system. This entire trial has been anything but fair. Libby and Abby will not get Justice and it is entirely the fault of the judge, state and law enforcement. Such a travesty.

di-lav
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I don’t understand. No matter if his car was seen there or not is irrelevant when he himself went to police to let them know he was there.

amandamarie
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Sucks the defense is so limited with funding to pay for all these tests that the State should have done properly since it’s their burden to prove.

TTTJTGamerVR
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I don't know what the public would have done without this coverage. Thank you so much for the day to day breakdown and analysis. It is shocking that cameras were not permitted in court.... at least audio coverage could have been approved! The judge on this case is a law unto herself. Richard Allen is not getting a fair trial.

truecrime_and_everything_else
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You both are doing a great job explaining everything. I’ve watched several court attendees, and this is my favorite now. Thanks so much!

debinindiana
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If Richard Allen is found not guilty for this crime (which based on this shoddy investigation I believe that he should be.) I whole heartedly believe that he should sue the f*&k out of the law enforcement's office for the way that he was treated. To be placed into these conditions ever is crazy but prior to having your day in court is the definition of cruel and unusual punishment

erchick
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Surely there is no way that the jury will find Richard Allen guilty after hearing all this. I just can't see that happening!

amandab
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This definitely seemed more planned than just some dude on a bridge who randomly decided to hurt 2 girls. This makes no sense. I think there was too much focus on a man on a bridge when something else could have happened. Weird stuff

sarzbeth
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If you can't see the shady work from this police group you got major problems... Whether he did it or not they don't have the evidence and there's a lot against the prosecution

DarinBecky
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You failed to mention that Betsy passed Abby and Libby on the trail right after she saw RA on the bridge. Important piece of information you should’ve mentioned.

TrueCrimeWatcher-uz
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I strongly believe that even if RA is guilty, this whole case has been handled so poorly that it has started to look like a sh&@!t show. For every piece of evidence that is presented, a thousand reasons are created to disprove it. I lost respect for the media and law enforcement.

cococ
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Justice for the Girls: Rest In Peace 🌸Abigail "Abby" Joyce Williams (June 23, 2003 – February 13, 2017) and Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German (December 27, 2002 – February 13, 2017)

justicejane
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"The Magic Phone & The Jumping Bullet"
Since law enforcement and prosecutors want to keep "playing pretend, " let these words serve as a reminder that the truth is real, and the real killers are still out there. This circus must end. Release the innocent man, properly investigate the case, follow up on the "Odin" report, and arrest the true perpetrators. Continuing this facade is a waste of everyone’s time and a stain on justice.

It’s alarming that one man's constitutional rights have been blatantly violated, yet no one in authority has intervened. Bad judges are rare, but Judge Gull's decisions take the cake. Her rulings have gone beyond questionable, bordering on bizarre. Consider this: during trial, a juror asked a question to someone on the stand, and after they answered, the prosecutor objected, which Judge Gull then sustained—leaving the jury without an answer. This undermines the very essence of a fair trial.

Then there’s the DNA issue. According to law enforcement, a foreign male DNA profile was collected at the crime scene—specifically used to compare with DNA swabs in this case. However, we’ve been told the DNA doesn’t match Richard Allen or the victims. Now, at trial, DNA has mysteriously disappeared as a factor, with the state claiming it no longer has the DNA once used in comparison. Are we to believe that crucial evidence—key in convicting someone in courts for decades—has simply vanished?

Similarly, interviews related to the case have been suspiciously erased. The state first claimed the interviews on the hard drive were deleted. Then they said they were recorded over, and later blamed a DVR malfunction in February, May, and June of 2017. Which is it? It can’t be all three. How many “coincidences” need to pile up before everyone acknowledges the gross mishandling of this case?

Meanwhile, the treatment of Richard Allen in custody has been inhumane and publicly humiliating. Forced to endure severe mental distress, he experienced a psychotic episode, during which he ate his own feces. This degrading ordeal was seen on camera, in court, even with family members present.

Numerous law enforcement officers—including former Delphi Police Chief Steve Mullins, ISP Lt. Holman, Sheriff Tony Liggett, and ISP officer Harshman—have lied in depositions and on the stand, misrepresenting evidence to the jury. Judge Gull remains unchecked, seemingly the most powerful woman in Indiana, allowing these errors to go uncorrected. The Attorney General and his investigator, who graduated from the ISP academy alongside ISP Superintendent Doug Carter, have also been present in court. Superintendent Carter, dubbed "DC the Riddler, " has long teased that he withheld information only the killer would know. But after all these years, are we to believe this secret was the presence of a van? That seems highly implausible.

The state has constructed a timeline that seems implausible. According to their account, the "Bridge Guy" video was recorded at 2:13 p.m. on February 13, 2017. They allege that Richard Allen, startled by Brad Weber’s van at 2:32 p.m., then crossed the creek, committed the murders, staged the scene, and managed to escape—all without being seen. The idea that he could accomplish all this undetected strains belief.

Additionally, witness Sarah Carbaugh, who created the sketch of the "older" Bridge Guy, reported seeing a similar figure at 3:57 p.m. on North County Road 300. However, neither she nor any other witness has identified Richard Allen as the person they saw. The timeline doesn’t align with this account, especially given that the state now appears to be relying on Weber’s van as the main evidence against Allen.

Taken together, these inconsistencies in timing and witness statements cast serious doubt on the state's narrative.

The unfolding of this case is beyond a travesty; it’s a series of injustices that continue to this day. Richard Allen deserves better. It’s maddening and heartbreaking that the very people sworn to serve and protect would compromise their duty for job security, a rampant issue across Carroll County and Indiana.

It’s said that every ISP academy graduate hears ISP Superintendent Doug Carter whisper, “Never do anything to discredit this organization.” Yet, we’re seeing the opposite, with the "blue line" prevailing over honesty and accountability. Crossing that line or speaking out can cost an officer their job or even worse, sometimes your life.

Judge Frances Gull originally appointed Baldwin & Rozzi as Allen's public defenders, only to later remove them—an unconstitutional act that the Indiana Supreme Court reversed, reinstating Baldwin and Rozzi. Judge Gull’s erratic and dubious decisions signal something deeply wrong, undermining the integrity of this case and the judiciary as a whole. We need an end to this circus.

During his time at Westville Prison, Richard Allen suffered from severe, drug-induced psychotic episodes. The antipsychotic drugs he was forced to take only intensified his condition. Fortunately, he is no longer in that state of mind—at least for now. This troubling period of his life is now coming to light, and it’s important that the public understands what he endured. For anyone suggesting he’s “faking it” or questioning his mental state at the time, please note that Richard Allen is not pleading insanity in this case. Whether you believe he was “crazy” then or not is irrelevant; this argument simply does not apply here.

CriminalNetwork
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This case is a mess. I don’t think we will ever know the truth. 😢

jjsmama
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Really great coverage/reporting of the trial. Bring these ladies back!

lisabyers
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You ladies are great...I got more information from the both of you than any of the others in all these years.

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