Johan Liebert vs Ayanokoji Kiyotaka | Ending Debate | Classroom of The Elite | Monster

[Its_Ayanokoji]

I read about something called "Johan Debunk", but i don't know what It says so i'm not considering It in this edit.

[homelesslukeskywalker]

I'm not taking anything away from Koji, but people don't realize how much of a political influence johan had in Europe. He was literally going to take over the entire European economy and their governments without even these countries knowing. World renowned economists praised Johan's mathematical abilities and his knowledge in finance and law. Plus, he controlled an underground criminal organization for years and easily made it collapse on itself after you stopped pulling its strings. You don't know how hard it is to accomplish all of this when countries like USSR and US were at their prime in terms of their national security.

Putting Johan aside, Koji and his classmates are victims of Franz Bonparta. I even argue Franz Bonparta > Johan. Johan called him a monster which tells u alot

[upper_moon]

Finally someone not giving Johan disrespect

[Monsterhunter]

I like how you separate it by scenarios in which one character wins at the end while the other wins in another scenario

[Faxsama]

Fax and thanks for not downplay johan❤

[greengoblin]

Don't know who wins but,
Monster>>>cote(i have read the light novel)
Johan>>>koji
if u agree😅

[thepublicpotato]

Johan literally started one of the most successful criminal organizations in europe around Ayanokoji age and destroyed it cause why not

[EmmanuelEntera]

1v1 fight:


Ayakonoji:Pulls out every knowledge in battle, martial arts etc




Johan:Pulls out gun.

[Chad]

Johan- Monster
Ayanokoji- Kira's victim😂

[memestars]

I am tired of people comparing these two. Both are great characters(except for cringy fanboys) and the author of johan didn't even wanted for his character to be debated with someone other wise it would have ruined his character like ayanokoji. In terms of 1v1, johan has a gun 🔫. What does fist gonna do against a gun and he will not be scared to pull the trigger. Mf manipulated a child into commit suicide, this just shows he has no mercy and does not give a fuck, he does not care who you are. In terms of manipulation, both will have a hard time in manipulating each other.

[joe]

Yeah I think that’s one of the best debates I have seen it’s safe to say that ayanokoji is inexperienced in irl so it’s clear that he lost on this part. We don’t know it will change in the future because maybe he will rule Japan like his father stated and he has more manipulated feats until this day arrives.

[Randomsaiyan]

The perfect monster vs The Perfect Human

[sultankillroy]

Let’s be honest in a fight Koji beats Johan every time, but as villain Johan never loses

[blank]

This is the first one I saw which does not seem biased.

[mysteriousguy]

Johan would neg diff him in irl situation and non fixed low diff 💀💀

[watashinonawakirayoshikage]

Manipulation would be lower but the rest is pure fax

[varsedits]

Experiment against Experiment, Both are not real.

[qamarzaman]

Csn you do
The darkest knight vs Kiyotaka Ayanokoji san

[tarr_ncl]

1v1 fight koji negs
Manipulation battle johan negs

[Bifurtxvke]

dude are you really kiding or what, ,logicall thinking faster thinking criticall thinking conceration thinking, ,give koji, ,dude you compare a genious human with one physco killer, ,and even staratgy legent also stratagy🤦statagy, complexity preaprations also