NEAR DISASTER | Multiple planes Cross Runway WHILE ANOTHER IS TAKING OFF!

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[VASAviation]

Now really, what's wrong with coordination between controllers lately? I guess 119.1 and 123.9 positions are literally seating next to each other?

[johnbidwell]

Must have been weird for the 17K pilot to get take off clearance and then watch 4 aircraft cross in front of him. Something to tell the grandkids.

[suzieb]

Im not sure whats I prefer, hearing controllers shouting S"TOP STOP STOP" in panic! Or hearing a pilot CASUALLY "saying aborting take off, traffic on runway" and the controllers not seeming that bothered!

[jonathanschwartz]

Admiration for the SwissAir pilot, limiting his call to simply “Aborting takeoff. Traffic on runway.”

[Benis]

This is the most outrageous ATC error I've ever seen on this channel. Five aircraft were exposed to significant risk due to such a mistake... What exactly happened here needs to be thoroughly investigated...

[Skepilot]

JFK needs to follow ATL's procedure for runway crossings. ATL does it right - the controller issuing the takeoff clearances for a given runway is the same one who issues the crossing instructions for that runway. JFK's way of having two different controllers on two different frequencies is a recipe for disaster.

[HenryLoenwind]

"Do you want to try again?"---"No thanks, I'd prefer to taxi to an airport that has controlled runways."

[bryanpassifiume]

That Swiss pilot is remarkably calm and collected, considering the controllers threw four entire airliners in front of him during his take off roll

[xlandros]

I know it wasn’t part of the problem, but I understood the Swiss Air pilot with his accent, better than the controller in the tower. Airports have to slow their roll before there’s a big tragedy…it’s only a matter of time.

[JJFHNREHJEDK]

Unbelievable - what is going on with ATC in the US?

[Matt-typq]

When the pilot screws up they are quick to admonish and give numbers to call.

[gatechecked]

Damn, I was in this conga line and saw the Swiss rejecting. Didn't even realize this is what went down.

[cheeseburger]

We are months not years away from another Tenerife type catastrophe.

[randyw.]

This is happening far too frequently...

[ThePTChem]

It's scary to think, that it's only a matter of time before something bad will happen. Too many of these things happening lately...

[danielfay]

The controller almost sounded more annoyed that 17k hadn't reached 31L to exit the runway fast enough.

[Kae]

OMG, they gave everyone clearance to cross 4L! I'm surprised that I wasn't given clearance to cross 4L. I should really check my messages....

[lesliesmith]

Well, the Swiss prevented the swiss cheese from happening!

[AdamChase]

The Swiss pilot should have given the tower a number to call. “Kennedy Tower, possible controller deviation. I have a number for you to copy when you’re ready”

[theselimt]

This is why you'll often hear "Cross 4L at F traffic holds in position" or "Cleared to land 4L traffic departs prior to your arrival" "Cross 4L at G traffic 2 mile final a heavy Airbus"

If I see traffic on a runway and I do not hear one of these, I'm not crossing or landing on it.

So if I was Delta 29 Heavy and I saw Swiss 17K lining up and I only heard "Cross 4L" without hearing that situational awareness tool I'm staying put. Most probably the controller didn't tell me about that traffic because he doesn't know or has lost the SA to know and tell me about it.