Vatic Pro Flash Review

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[betweenvines]

I think it's best to have two or three Paddles in the bag. 16mm PRISM flash for when the ball is going out (cold day, higher altitude, fast ball, fast gameplay, wind at back) and a 14mm Thermoformed Flash for when the ball is falling short (hot day, dead ball, hitting into the wind, high humidity, low elevation). You can get both for the same cost as these newer more expensive paddles. Also, the PRISM is cheaper to replace so it's possible to replace it when the spin drops off as the paddle wears out. So this system would be the cheapest total cost of ownership and give more flexibility to the player to adjust to circumstances. When drilling use old Paddles, when competing use new Paddles with fresh grit.

[RichardsWorld]

The Vatic creator was on an interview recently and at the end of the video he said he only expect me paddles to last 3-6 months. The host was surprised by this answer. So expect it to not last longer than 3-6 months. He also mentioned many paddle brands use a broker or middleman with the manufacturer. Vatic works directly with the manufacturer, saving them quite a bit of money.

[KristopherTran]

I've been loving my 16mm flash. I also have the v7 but found it to be too rigid for my liking. The new Alchemy paddle looks interesting. I'm looking forward to a review of that

[chanpickleball]

I love my Vatic Pro Flash 14mm and my Legacy Pro. I use both of them. I use Vatic for control and hand battle, while i use Legacy if i need more power (especially against the wind).

[bobdoe]

I agree that the 14mm flash spin better than the 16mm base on my serve.

[robertnowak]

Funny, I had the exact opposite experience between the F16 and DBD. Flash felt more controllable, while DBD felt overly poppy. Just goes to show how strong those manufacturing variations can be.

[kevngu]

I love my 14mm flash Vatic Pro. My serve is so fast now and top spin is amazing

[IAPickleballFacilities]

I love my Flash 16mm. Had V7 first and found it too head heavy. Legacy Pro too head heavy for me too. And the hybrid head shape is very quick

[ericthekid]

Just got my 14mm Flash for my first ever paddle and I must say it's a blast to play with this thing, takes an intial time to really get used to the pop but once u got the hang of it the power, the control and the flexibility of the paddle makes the game so much fun. Such a crazy good paddle!

[terogan]

How did I, of all people, miss that 90 day warranty? And I own both flashes. 😮
I am the same way, though. I tend to go to the 14mm more often. I did add a strip of cereal box cardboard on the two large sides before adding an overwrap to thicken up that handle. I also added a touch of tape on the throat area of each. And, of course, orange carbon fiber car wrap to the edge guard.

[zelos]

Got my flash 16 last week, and that's my first thermof. paddle. Very fast at the net, lot of pop. I honestly had zero issue to get used to the power, very easy to controll (maybe the 14 requires more work?). I am missing some swing weight on the drive, but i guess that's because I'm coming from the Electrum mod E. I will test some lead tape on the top and see what happens. Played everyday for the last two weeks, so far I love it!

[lilremylote]

I got the Flash 14mm weight: 8.75oz and completely transform my game. I love the company and what Daryl and his team is doing, I already pre-order the Alchemy Pro, i know it wont disappoint. Cheers.

[StevenNeely]

Had several opposite experiences with the Flash 16mm. I came from a Hyperion CFS. I’ve been able to drop and reset really well with the Flash 16mm. Drives have been fine as far as pace and keeping the ball. Nothing really overpowering like the Legacy. Was surprised the Flash would hit harder than the 6.0 DBD. At least that’s what I thought I heard. I do have a 6.0 DBD on order. So, will be curious to have my own comparison. Appreciate you the review!

[blakecalder]

Top notch video as always. Crazy that you had a hard time controlling the 16 I find mine to be a reset and drop machine.

[braddaddis]

I’ve played with every thermoformed paddle (but for the Hudef) and settled on the 14 mm flash. While I own all three Vatic paddles and like each of them, 14 mm flash allows the maneuverability and fast hands at the net, while the face feels more similar to the V7 (good for me because of the quick deflection off of the face). The 16mm Flash is a bit springy as Chris mentioned, but I still didn’t have much of a problem controlling it. However I do agree with Chris in that the 14mm has more control.
While Chris’ experience was that it may have had too much power…for me, the flash 14 mm has just the right amount of power because of the quick deflection of the face yet it slows down enough to keep the ball in. Missed returns are the absolute worst and unacceptable of course. And, the swing weight, and power of the CRBN 1x, Legacy Pro and to some extent the V7 can be more difficult to keep in when you first start using them. The flash still gives you that power at the net, but because of the lack of plow through you don’t hit balls long. Again, this is my personal experience. The DBD is fantastic also but I wanted more power. Again, all of this is subjective and just my experience with the paddles.

[kimleith]

Like my Flash 16mm. Weighted at top corners but may go back to stock weight. Chris where are your weights? Glad I'm choosing to support Daryl at Vatic. His interview with Brian really impressed me.

[MrDavei]

Thanks for the review. Pickleball Will did an Ultimate gen 2 paddle review 4 months ago and it feels outdated with all the new paddles on the market and post delam fixes. Perhaps you and he can do an updated version in 1 of your podcast?

[WisGuy]

You forgot to add that, unlike many/most other brands, Vatic includes a paddle cover with the paddle. So in real world pricing, figuring $10 for a paddle cover and including the coupon code, this thermoformed paddle costs only $120. EDIT: Ronbus charges $15 for a cover, so figure $115 for the paddle alone.

[ginjavision]

I got the Vatic Prism Flash 16 and I love the lower swing weight versus CRBN 1x, the paddle I was playing with when I got tennis elbow. But, I think the forgiveness and sweet spot is much less than the Lite Engage Pursuit MX Pro 6.0 I have which is of course a longer face, and a longer handle. This is a paddle that even does more of the work for you.

[Pickleball_Longevity]

I ordered the flash 14mm while i wait for my DBD 16mm