'Religion and science have the same roots.' - Sabine Hossenfelder #shorts

Sabine Hossenfelder is a physicist, author, and creator of "Science Without the Gobbledygook". She currently works at the Munich Center for Mathematical Philosophy in Germany.

[Wompwomp]

For those that don’t know, because this clip is honestly a bit confusing and misleading, what Sabine means when she is talking about when scientists sometimes stray into the area of religion is that physicists, and especially particle and quantum physicists, will just come up with theories that cannot be tested. They may explain things that can’t be explained by our current theories (like string theory) but Sabine’s biggest problem with these theories (which she states multiple times in other videos) is that because these theories can’t be tested they are religious in nature. Even if they explain things better it’s not science, it’s religion because the only thing backing these theories is faith, not evidence. Hope this helps to everyone saying she’s wrong or whatever. She just means the logic some scientists put behind their theories is blind faith, just like religion, which is bad and she does not support blind faith science.

[carlosvillar-gosalvez]

I find It's somewhat disturbing that a lot of people who both agree and disagree with Sabine, have actually no idea what she is talking about.

[Danielle_]

"If science proves some belief of Buddhism wrong, then Buddhism will have to change. In my view, science and Buddhism share a search for the truth and for understanding reality. ~ Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama

This is completely true. In fact mathematics used to be religion. Many ancient teachings started as religion.

In the 1800s many scientists in the west were paid for by the Catholic Church as well as other Christian churches. Western religion at the time thought science would prove the existence of God as well as other teachings. Eventually a divide happened where the churches gave up on science, but this happened slowly over generations. In the 1910s much of religion and science was still aligned. In the 1970s many scientists still went to church regularly in the west and considered it symbiotic. Today there is more of a divide primarily because some preachers are willing to spread misinformation and disinformation which is seen as offensive to certain types of individuals.

[fc-qrcy]

Sabine is always a delight of explanation.

[Vicnsi]

"When you believe in things
That you don't understand
Then you suffer" ~ Stevie Wonder

[gzoechi]

Religion was brought down by something similar to peer review where at some point only established ideas were confirmed anymore and new ideas got shut down immediately and the people suggesting them got ostracised 😉

[jeaniebird]

The difference is that humans realized, when searching for truth, one can, and must, be manipulated in order to "find" the truth, and the other MUST NOT be manipulated, in order to find the truth.

[avonsternen]

According to the Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant, the speculative nature of philosophy and religion diverges from the realm of scientific understanding, the latter of which is consistent in terms of logic but not necessarily valid in terms of assumptions about materialism. In other words, both religion and science may indeed converge in terms of natural Wisdom and Divine principle when essentially understood and open to Reason and the quest for underlying enduring Truth.

[idesel]

My most favorite scientist ever. A living legend🐐

[charlesdarwin]

Philosophy is what is possible.
Alignment of probability results in reality.
Projection of reality is avatar.
Perception of avatar is Maya.

It is that simple.

When science stops religion takes over.

[brnto]

Not just the same roots… they still share common drivers today… they are both in pursuit of understanding the nihilism of life… searching into the unknown at the very edge of human understanding and trying to find what’s beyond that… where they differ is the the utilitarian aspects of science and religion; the part of science or religion that utilises what we have previously learned to improve our physical and mental well-being.

[iainmackenzieUK]

I think its important in these discussions to distinguish between religion and spirituality.
I believe our curiosity in science is, for some of us, an existential/ spiritual quest.

[PeterStieg-uo]

Sabine is right when she says science and religion have the same roots, in the sense that these two disciplines often used to be carried out by the same literate peoples with a religious education, who had access to books and the classical knowledge. Even during the scientific revolution, some of the scientists (Newton for example) had assigned themselves the task to decipher the rules of the universe established by God. But apart from some notable exception, and the big questions about the ultimate nature of things, religion and science deal with very different issues which don’t overlap much. Science is about the measure and the description of the material world, its standards are length, weight, time, matter etc… Religion deal with moral, ethics and the interactions between peoples in general, its standard is the Human being, his emotions and his innermost and intimate feelings.

[quiteenough]

couldn't find the full interview with this piece ;c

[uniquelybe]

Understanding can be understood from different perspectives. Cultures, personalities and people offer different Perspective of natural Wisdom and Truth like various aspects of a diamond.

[Que-Lindo]

absolutely my favorite scientist. if you can, watch the full interview.

[ebrennie]

I’m a scientist. Most scientists I know are religious or spiritual. Science offers one path to understanding the reality you have found yourself in. But it would be foolish to only rely on this one source of understanding. There are many. It’s worthwhile to explore all of them.

[DarkSkay]

Assuming that metaphysics (like e.g. mathematics) are inexhaustible... the (concretized as well as imagined) domain of metaphysics branches and diversifies faster than the domain of science, because A) the surface area of fuzzy, debated or clear boundries between the two keeps increasing B) metaphysics can expand freely, go wherever imagination can go.

[DoreenBellDotan]

One of the biggest mistakes that the Jews made in reading the Hebrew scriptures was thinking that what is being talked about is only from the
Earth perspective, as they understand
Earth. In fact, cosmic information is being given over in the depths of the alpha-numeric Hebrew language.
The value of the Hebrew word Earth is 1101. That is also the value of the Hebrew expression: All of the suns. What appears to be individual figures in Torah are actually foundational principles of the creation. They are represented as humans so that we can relate to them. Avraham and Sarah are they who delivered the elements that comprise Earth as we know it.

[alegalegg]

you missed out philosophy. Philosophers were the first to offer explanations ( admittedly a bit primitive) about cosmology and nature that did not involve ‘ a god made X’.