The Open Forum Episode 36

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Episode 36 of 'The Open Forum' where Christians, Atheists are invited to join the discussion. Guests will be invited on a first come first serve basis. Please note we can only have a maximum of 10 panelists (including efdawah panelists) at any one time.
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Timestamps/Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:05 - Brothers Abbas & Imran join
03:08 - The Early Muslims' View of the Bible
05:48 - Injil in the Quran not being the Bible
09:04 - Inviting Christians
09:53 - Advice to Muslims in Leicester
15:17 - Full story of the Leicester situation
19:48 - Message to Muslims
25:31 - Marlon (Christian) joins
25:52 - Explanation of Qur'an 29:46
31:15 - Marlon makes claims without evidence
35:20 - Explanation of Qur'an 10:94
42:44 - Problems with Marlon's Approach
46:39 - Corruption of the Torah & Injil as per the Qur'an
49:46 - Hadith on the corruption of the previous scriptures
54:03 - Marlon's question about the previous scriptures' corruption & their original texts?
57:59 - Evidence for the corruption of the previous scriptures
1:01:49 - Did Muhammad ﷺ use the Torah for guidance?
1:05:34 - Marlon Rage Quits
1:05:54 - Review of the discussion with Marlon
1:08:11 - Explanation of Qur'an 5:68
1:13:43 - Qur'an correcting previous scriptures & being Authoritative over them
1:17:20 - Advice to Non-muslims
1:18:07 - Examples of Qur'an correcting the Bible
1:20:51 - Addressing the Guests in the backchat
1:21:44 - Howard joins
1:23:23 - Howard shares his Beliefs
1:26:51 - Howard's claims about Earth's nature in the Qur'an
1:28:44 - Discussion on Howard's approach
1:36:15 - Correct approach for searching for guidance
1:41:51 - Reasons for Qur'an being the word of God
1:45:14 - Exegesis & Eisegesis of the Qur'an
1:47:18 - Analysing Howard's Method
1:50:34 - Howard's Skepticism
1:53:47 - Advice to Howard
1:59:53 - Howard's Response
2:01:24 - Howard's view of the Qur'an
2:02:31 - Howard's hesitation towards accepting Islam
2:04:41 - Inviting Howard to Islam
2:09:04 - Qur'an 2:170-171 & its explanation
2:10:53 - Discussion on Islam vs Howard's Views
2:29:06 - Dawah to Howard
2:40:50 - Message to Muslims: Dawah not being for Entertainment
2:45:00 - KurdishGuy (Ex-Muslim) joins
2:45:22 - Hadith about the Hour
2:48:51 - Explanation of the Hadith about the Hour
3:11:05 - Insincerity of Ex-Muslims
3:12:27 - Robin (Arian Christian) joins
3:13:43 - Robin's claims about biasness of Muslims
3:16:44 - Discussion on Being Objective
3:19:29 - Analysing Robin's view of the Bible
3:23:27 - Muslims' View of the Qur'an
3:25:08 - Robin believing in the Bible despite its errors & corruption
3:35:28 - Objective analysis of the Qur'an
3:39:37 - The Beliefs of Arian Christianity
3:41:40 - Proofs of Truth of Islam
3:42:59 - Scrutinizing Robin's beliefs
3:49:26 - Preservation of the Bible vs the Qur'an
3:53:56 - Historicity of Jesus' Crucifixion
4:01:56 - Dawah to Robin
4:09:07 - Muslims analysing Islam & accepting it
4:12:43 - Islam being the fastest growing religion
4:15:38 - Closing Remarks

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*Timestamps:*
00:00 - Intro
01:05 - Brothers Abbas & Imran join
03:08 - The Early Muslims' View of the Bible
05:48 - Injil in the Quran not being the Bible
09:04 - Inviting Christians
09:53 - Advice to Muslims in Leicester
15:17 - Full story of the Leicester situation
19:48 - Message to Muslims
25:31 - *Marlon (Christian) joins*
25:52 - Explanation of Qur'an 29:46
31:15 - Marlon makes claims without evidence
35:20 - Explanation of Qur'an 10:94
42:44 - Problems with Marlon's Approach
46:39 - Corruption of the Torah & Injil as per the Qur'an
49:46 - Hadith on the corruption of the previous scriptures
54:03 - Marlon's question about the previous scriptures' corruption & their original texts?
57:59 - Evidence for the corruption of the previous scriptures
1:01:49 - Did Muhammad ﷺ use the Torah for guidance?
1:05:34 - Marlon Rage Quits
1:05:54 - Review of the discussion with Marlon
1:08:11 - Explanation of Qur'an 5:68
1:13:43 - Qur'an correcting previous scriptures & being Authoritative over them
1:17:20 - Advice to Non-muslims
1:18:07 - Examples of Qur'an correcting the Bible
1:20:51 - Addressing the Guests in the backchat
1:21:44 - *Howard joins*
1:23:23 - Howard shares his Beliefs
1:26:51 - Howard's claims about Earth's nature in the Qur'an
1:28:44 - Discussion on Howard's approach
1:36:15 - Correct approach for searching for guidance
1:41:51 - Reasons for Qur'an being the word of God
1:45:14 - Exegesis & Eisegesis of the Qur'an
1:47:18 - Analysing Howard's Method
1:50:34 - Howard's Skepticism
1:53:47 - Advice to Howard
1:59:53 - Howard's Response
2:01:24 - Howard's view of the Qur'an
2:02:31 - Howard's hesitation towards accepting Islam
2:04:41 - Inviting Howard to Islam
2:09:04 - Qur'an 2:170-171 & its explanation
2:10:53 - Discussion on Islam vs Howard's Views
2:29:06 - Dawah to Howard
2:40:50 - Message to Muslims: Dawah not being for Entertainment
2:45:00 - *KurdishGuy (Ex-Muslim) joins*
2:45:22 - Hadith about the Hour
2:48:51 - Explanation of the Hadith about the Hour
3:11:05 - Insincerity of Ex-Muslims
3:12:27 - *Robin (Arian Christian) joins*
3:13:43 - Robin's claims about biasness of Muslims
3:16:44 - Discussion on Being Objective
3:19:29 - Analysing Robin's view of the Bible
3:23:27 - Muslims' View of the Qur'an
3:25:08 - Robin believing in the Bible despite its errors & corruption
3:35:28 - Objective analysis of the Qur'an
3:39:37 - The Beliefs of Arian Christianity
3:41:40 - Proofs of Truth of Islam
3:42:59 - Scrutinizing Robin's beliefs
3:49:26 - Preservation of the Bible vs the Qur'an
3:53:56 - Historicity of Jesus' Crucifixion
4:01:56 - Dawah to Robin
4:09:07 - Muslims analysing Islam & accepting it
4:12:43 - Islam being the fastest growing religion
4:15:38 - Closing Remarks

SubhanAllah ❤️🤍💖
Marvelous Stream 👍🏻👌🏻
_May Allah ﷻ bless you all and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻

asadullahsaaid

Brother Dr Imran wasn't having any of it during this stream 🤣🤣🤣🤣👌 best stream EVER!!! MashaAllah

jimfromwakanda

Well said Abbas at 2 hours and 41min, I love the open forum, I enjoy it the most

Its not about being fun or controversial or entertaining.

I love to listen to you and brother Imran Alhamdulilah

finalprophet

Glad to see brother Sadat is back to the stream, he always adds brilliance to the stream. Appreciation to to brothers Imran, abass, Muhammad, and erfan.

imammamunu

Howard's heart seems to be in the right place. He just needs to take that next step now. May Allah swt guide him to the truth. Ameen.

summer

Alhamdulillah, one of the best streams. Great panelists and many great insights. Jazakumullahu khayran, dear Brothers.

IndoFahmi

Robin to me comes across as somewhat envious that we are able to have confidence in the preservation of our scripture.

knavishknack

Wish brother Sadat would join your streams and the Arena more often. Always enjoy his insights

TheTruthSeekerMe

I've noticed when Robin smiles when he's been asked questions and can't answer them he knows he's been caught out.

ramadanbaftiyar

*_Muslims get their strength by being objectively critical of Islam. Masha'Allah, a brilliant panel._*

HussainFahmy

Masha Allah dr Imran so eligant and precise yet so simple to understand, unfortunately Christians always struggle to comprehend basic and logical questions.

sheikhmiah

First help yourself and find your own bearing, then help others 🙏

Asad-

Salaam brothers @EFDawah, not sure if you read these messages. But there are times when you are talking to guests there is a lag between you and them (example Robin, I've seen worse). Maybe for them just give them up to 5 minutes to give their premise and ask a question, and then maybe give the other brothers the same amount of time so that there is a clear conversation going. I know this is not the best way to have discussions, but not a lot you can do with Internet speeds and distance.

aujra

2:49:03 Sahih al-Bukhari 6511
Narrated `Aisha:
Some rough bedouins used to visit the Prophet (ﷺ) and ask him, "When will the Hour be?" He would look at the youngest of all of them and say, "If this should live till he is very old, your Hour (the death of the people addressed) will take place." Hisham said that he meant (by the Hour), their death.

micoberss

3:30 robin accepted that bible has errors but he still will follow it. His claim on the Quran re 6 days has been dealt with when he’s raised it before but he’s not listening

nargis