The Devil and Karl Marx | Dr. Paul Kengor | EP 455

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with author, historian, and professor of political science, Dr. Paul Kengor. They discuss the lifestyle, writings, and religious ideations of Karl Marx, how communist dogma evolved through modern day, and why equal outcome is wrong on the level of malevolence.

Paul Kengor, Ph.D., is a professor of political science at Grove City College in Grove City, Pennsylvania, and editor of The American Spectator. He’s a New York Times bestselling author of more than 20 books, including “The Devil and Karl Marx” and “The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism,” which is the basis of the new movie “Reagan,” starring Dennis Quaid. Kengor is a renowned historian of the Cold War, communism, and Reagan presidency.

This episode was recorded on June 7th, 2024

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(0:00) Coming up
(0:26) Intro
(2:16) The Devil and Karl Marx
(4:08) The dark poetry of Karl Marx
(7:43) Goethe’s Faust, Mephistopheles and anti-being
(16:47) How Marx lived: disorder and disgust
(18:52) Marx’s nursemaid, to refuse your own child
(23:27) Marx wouldn’t bathe: boils and rage
(25:30)The Communist Manifesto
(28:33) Slogans over substance
(29:55) Why was an atheist writing about Satan?
(35:59) Marx’s ethnicity and early religion, how this influenced his work
(37:59) Why did the biographers ignore Marx’s poetry and faith?
(39:14) Why and when did Marx become an atheist? Professor Bruno Bauer
(47:03) How Marx was described by those who knew him
(51:40) Was Karl Marx a Satanist?
(58:41) Presentism and the arrogance of Leftism
(1:12:00) Religion is not the opiate of the masses
(1:19:12) Dostoevsky, the fundamental flaw with communism
(1:21:11) Modern Marxism: far from economics
(1:24:59) Cain and Abel: the first victim/victimizer narrative
(1:32:21) How deep has the communist infiltration gone?

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[vladmordekeiser]

As an ex-communist of reasonably high rank inside the Academy for years in the areas of Philosophy and Politics, I have to say what is clear now to me: the battle was NEVER communism vs. capitalism. It was always communism vs. Christianity.

[lenar.]

This conversation needs to be expanded into a semester-long course and offered to all first-year college students in the US and Canada!

[georgehenry]

For people that don’t think we’re in a spiritual battle.. You are, I am and we will always be until the next adventure beyond .

[notsure]

It is a very rare conversation that I can listen to and forget I'm a spectator. Great job, Doctors. Thank you for letting us enjoy it

[scottishguard]

In college, I was somewhere between a Nietzschean and a Marxist. My life was a chaotic, stressful wreck.
20 years later, I'm a Traditional Catholic convert, Philosopher, Historian, Conservative, married, semi-retired, large family, good life.

Marx should be taught as a warning, never a philosophy.

[LaserHighway]

It's a scary thought if JP's brilliance remained limited to 50 college students, and was never introduced to the world for this kind of content. The radical left gifted him to us.

[cindirose]

So glad that Florida has decided to teach all students of all ages the Dangers of Communism in Public Schools.

[momscience]

Dr. Kengor is an awesome guest! I love that he can predict Dr. Peterson's questions, very rare to see a guest do that with him. They have great inter play in this conversation.

[thegeneralist]

"Hatred of the good for being the good." The purest definition of evil.

[psychlops]

Something the Christ said that we all need to hold to: By their fruits ye shall know them. Just hearing about the state of Marx's life lets me know that I shouldn't do anything he ever advocated for.

[lillpriest]

Even for someone who comes from Eastern European communist country, this was eye opening.

[LeoxandarMagnus]

This is one of the most important interviews I’ve seen on YouTube.

[mikelee]

Our culture needs so much more educating on what communism and Marxism is.

[wildolive]

Marx needed JP advice " clean out your room, before thinking to fix the world, man!"

[JonBonZombie]

Jordan Peterson Really helped me. Videos and his book in the early stages of my sobriety. I'm 8 years sober ..

[backyardmech]

Excellent discussion . "You can vote communism into power, but you can't vote it out" - Trevor Louden

[bicyclist]

I had no idea that Marx was so detestable in so many ways. This is like a college course. Thank you.

[kahadin]

My wife used to critisize this stuff as demonic, and I never took her seriously. This conversation was very enlightning and helped tie up some loose notions about marxism that I couldnt really make sense of.

[ilil]

"Build back better " does ring all the alarms

[fuoydpj]

This should be taught in high school for enlightenment!!
Blessings