Frost is saved? Frost mage talents and sims 10.1.5

My thoughts on Frost in 10.1.5

Big disclaimer this is still very much WIP

0:00 Intro & Class Tree changes
2:30 Frost Tree changes
5:50 Single Target
7:07 AOE & Mythic+
11:06 Where does this leave Frost?

[Toegrinder]

Talent builds and Sims may change. Main focus of this video is on frosts kit and playability in raids and m+

[showtimeap]

Really enjoy how you explain your thought process and reasoning behind stuff being good/bad/whatever. Very excited to see whether frost or fire is going to be better. Love the videos!

[wdtje]

idk about frost but my marriage is saved for sure! thanks mr grinder!

[marsruben]

Thankfully Frost seems to be a good spec again going forward, nice work Toegrinder!

[christophervelasquez]

Thanks alot Toegrinder!!! I am a Frost main and an looking forward to this, I hope things keep trending towards the positive

[robertward]

Thanks for all of the insights - will be looking forward to your assessment of Arcane!

[Zeph]

Thanks for the overview, that's exactly what I was looking for!

[Goldros]

Saved? Making us more damage in exchange for 10x harder rotation? No, it is not saved.

[NamNguyen-jqrr]

Would be cool if Blizzard would distinguish the mage specs in their damage profile. Arcane big burst, fire frequent burst, frost high consistent damage.

[paulvanrenselaar]

Lovely Video Toegrinder, I have a question though, and appologies if I did not get it yet from your explanation. Both in Single Target as AOE, would you now advice to take glacial spike in the build and rotation? is it now going to be part of the normal rotation?

To give some perspective I stoped playing wow after 10.0.5 so totally missed the initial small 10.1 update, thanks a lot!

[mightyjoeyoung]

99% of people who disagree with having a balanced profile in M+ didn't get title and have 0 relevant information to share. Good vid, can't wait for this to go live. I've been spending way too much time on PTR messing with frost and fire.

[andregobira]

Hey good sr, ty for this video! Which spec you think that would be a go to for us mages considering everything? I'm a CE raider and 20+ m+ player

[thomascochrane]

On mage hub would be great when 10.1.5 comes to have a talent preset for your preference m+ and a pad preset/overall pad bait preset

[joshuawoodard]

I think GS might not be better on ST, but definitely fort 2T.

[Jamiaca]

Can you please make a video like this for arcane and what do you think about in m+

[Swtch]

Has this changed since you made this video? I dont see anyone recommending Ray line for M+ at all

[someinternetuser]

A good example of requiring target swapping would be the totem on the last boss in BH. ;)
PS. What's your keyboard / switches etc? :P

[cjwood]

How is this going to affect stat weights for frost this patch? Not sure if you looked into that with sims... I just remember last time Glacial spike was prominent in BFA you ran vers/mastery and kind of ignored haste

[Ziosove]

I've been wondering this since I saw the mass invis/mass barrier talents: do other people also get benefit from incantation of swiftness/diverted energy when you barrier/invis them?

[zacharysmith]

Are you doing fire mage updates it looks brutal