Hermitcraft and DreamSMP: What's The Difference?

@xisumavoid talks with Captain Puffy, GeminiTay and his Twitch chat about the OG Minecraft Influencers like DocM77, Etho and Static777, about audience overlap between SMPs and the Minecraft Generation.

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0:00 Coming Up
0:22 OG Minecraft Creators
2:50 Like-Minded People In the Community
3:33 Hermitcraft and DreamSMP Audience

#hermitcraft #dreamsmp #xisumasays

[maremi]

I started watching hermitcraft in 2019 and when the Dream SMP started in 2020 I wanted to check it out. The culture shock was immense. Both are great but the playstyles are definitely different.

[miniciominiciominicio]

Gosh, Xisuma’s derping is so bloody endearing.

I can’t imagine going from watching Etho at 14 to playing and joking around with him on Hermitcraft. Gem is living all our Ethogirl and fanboy dreams. And she’s not even the least bit awkward about it. A genuine superpower, she has. Meanwhile you have Doc, Impulse, Tango, Joe, Jevin, Bdubs, Ren, being all super stans especially during season 7 when he came back xD

[fleef]

I swear as soon as he said Christopher Paolini I was hit with such a huge wave of shock and nostalgia. I remember reading the books Eragon and Eldest in middle school. Had no idea that guy was a Minecraft fan but honestly it kinda makes sense lol.

[mysticat]

i never noticed it until u mentioned it but ur totally right! i've been playing since 2009 and most of my creator friends started around the same time

[allisoncameron]

It may be surprising, but a significant portion of Dream SMP fans became fans of Hermitcraft, either because they were looking for another SMP to watch or they were enticed by clips of the turf war in season 7, big moon in season 8, or the start of season 9. A lot of those creators are in fact fans of Hermitcraft, and some storylines like the Season 7 election, were replicated for the lore of Dream SMP.
Yes, the audience is a bit young and may just be attracted to the celebrity aspect of the creators, but the older fans such as myself not only liked the deep lore, but also the shenanigans that would occur, for which Hermitcraft is full of those.
The creators on that Dream SMP eventually became so burnt out, and their schedules became so busy, they couldn’t put time into the server anymore either through building or storytelling (and of course the anarchy tendencies). Hermitcraft doesn’t need complicated storylines to keep us interested, so keep being your derpy selves.

[Pathfinder-qphe]

It’s heartwarming to see so many hermits grew up on Etho and admired him and are now playing with him lol

[Zenologia]

Christopher Paloni being an HC fan honestly makes so much sense

[khaotickiri]

It's also interesting to bring up the recent "DreamSMP to Hermitcraft Pipeline" that's happened too, a lot of DSMP fans (me included) moved on from the DreamSMP and began watching Hermitcraft! I liked Dsmp for the story, but I think what makes me REALLY watch Hermitcraft and Minecraft videos in general is just having fun with your friends. I absolutly love the hermit's interactions and it's what makes me keep coming back, I think <3

[watchingaccount]

I feel like a lot of us older zoomers (2000-2006) probably resonate more with the 'older' minecrafters due to it being very nostalgic. Most of us were introduced to it at a very young age as 8-11 year olds, so we heavily associate the game and the youtube culture surrounding the game with our early childhoods. I am 18 and remember watching SkyDoesMinecraft, Yogscast, Stampy, CaptainSparklz, and DanTDM. Being especially interested in modded minecraft due to only having a console at the time because my family couldn't really afford to get a PC.

If you talk to anyone my age in the community, they will probably tell you that the 'unedited (modded) letsplay' format is very poignantly nostalgic - it is 'comfy'. Though I probably could never go back and watch such a format now. I feel like contrary to popular belief, kids sometimes have incredibly better attention spans than us adults due to having less expectations from the stuff they watch.

It was strange seeing some people who was not too familiar with minecraft become very invested in it due to the DSMP/Pewdiepie wave. I think roughly a third of older zoomers are part of such wave, and a much larger majority of younger zoomers are. I think it also depends on your placement in terms of siblings when it comes to these generational things. If you have many older siblings, you tend to adopt cultural stuff from the older end of your generation, whilst if you are older you may be at the forfront of what defines your generation. It also depends on class, I was born in 2005 but still remember playing a PS2 and having a square TV. I remember watching films stored on VHS's.

[thatbluecat]

Gem's young but started from a early age. Since she started watching minecraft at 14 and making videos at 15 she's been around in the community for 10-11 years, about as long as most other hermits. Gem was also one of the the first minecrafters I watched and the first I became obsessed with immediately lol. I binged most of her series with in the first couple months of watching.

[Cezoram]

i played with Cpt Puffy on a server for a while nearly a decade ago. We both made content, and while I quit, she stuck it out and eventually got discovered and became successful. So I really like your point with how a lot of these current Minecraft content creators have been invested in this community for a very long time!

[mattgriffin]

Honestly, I think X underrates how large the overlap is between HC and DSMP. It's not large, and not as much as something like the DSMP and PVP community, but like.. 1/20 DSMP fans will probably also be an HC fan.

[ezekieldaniels]

Woah that’s crazy about Christopher Paolini, when I hear about authors I kinda get the feeling that’s all they do, sort of how children imagine their teachers. It’s weird that he also does Minecraft on YouTube, but good for him

[davidking]

I work at a bookstore, this is so cute that I can just drop the fact Christopher paolini not only plays Minecraft, but also is a fan of hermitcraft and watches it and literally chilled with you is just such nice author lore, omg.

[eloquentornot]

Nice to hear you talk about this a bit! I haven't watched any of the DSMP stuff but it's cool to see moments like this where the communities briefly collide, and I'm glad you shared your thoughts on it! There's definitely a lot of players who seem to have always been there, I only really got into the game during the last few years or so, so I often feel like I've missed out on that early nostalgia, but I've already made some nice memories from both playing and watching, and I'm looking forward to seeing what we all do in Minecraft in the years to come!

[xanthewoolrych]

I've watched Hermitcraft pretty consistently since Season 5, but over lockdown I also hyper-focused on the Dream SMP and I'm now super deep into both communities! They both have quite different vibes which, probably coincidentally, play into the different areas of entertainment I enjoy. It's strangely bizarre to see Xisuma talking about the Dream SMP, it's like two opposite ends of the spectrum in my mind coming together and I my brain cannot fully comprehend it. hahaha

[Heightren]

CHRISTOPHER PAOLINI!? THE AUTHOR OF ERAGON!? YOU MET HIM!?

[CloudFuel]

Love catching little stories / interactions like this that I would have otherwise missed over the course of a multi-hour stream.

It's definitely interesting to see where some areas of MC overlap and how slight variations early on lead to widely varied content years (or even decades) later.

[stormchazer]

1:00 I already see a lot of love for the comments in the chat, but I want to state I love you too. I really liked reading his novel was young. Then I when I wanted to write my own novel when I was 14, he was on my list of authors to contact to learn from before writing. He was the only author to respond and he is very inspiring when you realise he wrote Eragon at 18, see his wikipedia. I am so thankful he reached out and inspired me. I espected no author to message back as they are all busy and I as a random 14 year old felt intrusive. So grateful for him reaching back and making me happy. He is just a great writer.

[hugeinjapan]

If I saw Xisuma and Wattles meet in person I'd never know it