AoE2: DE | Dawn of the Dukes Patch Breakdown (balance changes for old civs)

First thing I did on stream today was to go over the patch notes for the DotD expansion! Lots of big changes - especially to Sicilians. Will probs upload a vid on the new civs tomorrow (as well as the first Lithuanian scenario).

[PolanaAnurag]

This Sicilian bonus is so overpowered on nomad. U can essentially scout the whole shoreline before u reach feudal age. Me and my friend were in a 2v2. He was Malians and sicilians. He killed their fish and I defend with buffed knights.

[renrewplayz]

I love a good Ornlu balance update video. I think your opinions are the most in-depth.

[Drigallski]

i like the Burmese one, because i like undoing nerfs when they are not needed anymore. I also like that the Lithuanians are pushed more towards Hussars/Leitis. The malian economy bonus is also an interesting idea.

[niksyt]

one very important change that is flying under the radar, but will be useful for 1100s like me is that the Extreme AI can now do a scout rush! this will make it more difficult to beat using the scts -> kts strategy that I used before… I am excited to try out this new, hopefully more challenging AI! (at least against some of the traditional scout opening civs)

[Duke_of_Lorraine]

Going Above and Beyond is now available ? Finally

[Hamanuna]

I find it kinda interesting how the Winged Hussar can't be fully upgraded for both Lithuanians (lack of Blast Furnace) and Bohemians (lack of Plate Barding Armor)

[Duke_of_Lorraine]

How OP do you want Bohemians to be ?
(turn Bohemian monks into trash units)

[StormKnight]

Between the organ gun damage buff and bullet speed increase, it looks like the Portuguese received one of the bigger buffs in this balance change along with Sicilians

[nysh]

With the new bullet speed, cobra cars are even more OP

[raynightshade]

Keep buffing up Handcannons but nothing for Jansaries, well other than the bullet speed

[matthewmcneany]

Neither of the winged hussar civs get full upgrades for the unit. I find that neat.

[Tudsamfa]

It's really hard to be upset about the new sicilian bonus breaking water maps, when the status quo was also horribly unbalanced.

"Pick Sicilians or lose" isn't that far off from "Pick Italians, Vikings, Japanese, Portuguese or lose."

[michaeltaylor]

Lithuanian nerf seems a bit harsh, now they need 2 relics just to break even, and maxed out their paladins are now equivalent to Teutons, who get their armour bonus for free, while the Lithuanians actually have to put work into getting relics.

Sicilians seem very strong now - top tier cavaliers, siege onagers, a huskarl/TK hybrid UU, and a way stronger tower rush or fast castle drop, helped even more by their 100% construction speed.

Glad the Cumans finally got a buff, even more happy steppe lancers are finally getting buffed as well.

Glad the Byzantines finally get Town Patrol, that was bugging me for ages.

Malians new bonus is nice, definitely shows off Mali's history with gold better than the old bonus. Wondering how the Bohemians are going to be with their mining bonus now

Also glad HCs have finally been getting some attention with the accuracy, HP and projectile speed buffs

[aetiussecularus]

Fully upgraded? Do you mean fully vaccinated? The future New York civ won’t allow you into their town radius unless you have all your upgrades

[stefanandrejcik]

Mostly I am satisfyied aside of Poles not having plate barding Armor, I AM FUCKING HAPPY FOR FUCKING CUMANS BUFFS😂😂, one last thing I would add them is that when reaching castle age CA get +1range and Kipchaks +1 attack and Elite steppe lancers get +1/1 to Armor Also Bohemians in my opinion should have much batter stávke units it's Also historically incorect, I would add them Paladins and plate....armor

[raynightshade]

Lithuanians Halbs really suck now, losing blast funice they miss out on 2 attack and 1 melee armor compared to fully upgraded

[frankieseward]

Van you do the Lithuanian campaign first?

[jagartharn]

Thats odd that the Sicilian tech tree says they dont get siege onagers? A bug?