215. Stalingrad and the Red Army

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Tom and Dominic are again joined by Iain MacGregor to discuss the climax of the Battle of Stalingrad, Pavlov's House, and the Red Army's counter offensive that ultimately defeated the Axis forces.

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Dan sent me. He spoke very highly of y'all. I'm looking forward to it.

jameshirt
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Dan sent me as well. I love a good history podcast. I have subscribed and working my way through. Great podcasts.

imafraidofclowns
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Dan also sent me. Great show guys! New listener for life

dangerdave
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Paulus was physically breaking down way before he ever got into that department store. He was a staff general not a battlefield General and Stalingrad had been difficult from the very beginning. It definitely took its toll on the future Field Marshal.

bookaufman
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Hearing Dom mention that level on COD is just 👌🏻

trajan
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Paulius was such a fool. He planned Barbarossa and so he knew failure was likely when the army stalled in front of Moscow and Leningrad with no winter warfare preparations.

He had also been Staff Quarter-Master General for the entire German army so he could also intuit that there was very little chance that the Luftwaffe could ever provide the required mass of materiel.

He should have just done what Model did at Orel in the summer of 1943 ...withdraw first to save his army and ask permission later if anybody complained about it. Model’s impertinence got him relieved of command, so he took three months leave to spend with his Mrs.

edward
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"Canary in the gas chamber. ??? I've heard of a canary in a coal mine but never in a gas chamber. That might be a bit of a mixed metaphor.😊

bookaufman
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man, ....
"Operation Uranus" sounds much cooler in german 👀🙃🙃

lennartkaiser
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I don't think he means literally parachuted in 😔

Hey my take on Hitler as a military strategist is that he was always fighting the first world war with his no surrender of territory orders, he never got mobile warfare 🥺

barbararice
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Germans flee at the sight of Uranus....

Mute_Nostril_Agony
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How strong do you think the English or the British would have contested the imaginary town of Churchillton? Then imagine The Americans defending Rooseveltville. These towns don't exist but I imagine the fighting would have been pretty fierce if the Allies had to defend these centers against the Nazis.😊

bookaufman
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My comment comes late. My Father in law is Russian. Stalin is a still thought of as a GREAT man. All the evidence of his prewar mass purges is Western propaganda. His own Uncle, a Russian air force officer was killed in the pre WW2 purge. Yet, it must have been his own fault that Stalin had him murdered. Films of the Great Patriotic war are still being made and are very popular. And the Western allies only joined the war after the Russians had won it. Who says propaganda doesn't work?

jamesallen