Do You Need to Understand the Trinity to Be Saved? | Ask Redeemer

Do You Need to Understand the Trinity to Be Saved? | Ask Redeemer

Is an understanding of the Trinity necessary for salvation? Pastor Jon Benzinger answers your question on Ask Redeemer.

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[Linda-tdsi]

"For there are three that bear witness in heaven:
the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one."
1 JOHN 5:7

[euston]

According to the doctrine of the Trinity, these seven statements are all true:

1. There is only one true God.
2. The Father is the one true God.
3. The Son is the one true God.
4. The Holy Spirit is the one true God.
5. The Father is not the Son.
6. The Son is not the Holy Spirit.
7. The Holy Spirit is not the Father.

What happens when we put these statements together?

Starting with (1): There is only one true God.
Restating (5) in light of (2) & (3): The one true God is not the one true God.
Restating (6) in light of (3) & (4): The one true God is not the one true God.
Restating (7) in light of (4) & (2): The one true God is not the one true God.

So according to the doctrine of the Trinity, there's only one true God, and that one true God is not the one true God.

I reject that nonsense.

*Jesus Christ* the Son of God *is God the Father* manifested as a genuine human.

[t.agamer]

The verses that make me believe in the trinity are:

- John 8:58 & Revelations 22:13. Because Jesus himself calls himself eternal. 'GOD the father' and Jesus were the only two in the whole bible that claimed to be eternal.
- Also in John 8:58, its interesting how Jesus says "Before Abraham, 'I AM' (which means Yahweh). The Same 'I AM' used when God speaks to Moses in EXODUS 3:14
- Hebrews 1:8-12 'GOD the father' LITRALLY calls the 'The Son' GOD. (that alone should prove it lol)
- John 10:30 Jesus claims to be ONE with the father.
- Genesis 1:26 GOD is using words like US and OUR to describe him creating the world.
(Also GOD literally appeared to Abraham in human form a few times in Genesis)

And there are many other verse that show that The Son was also GOD.

[cat-bgrv]

What I have been taught is that the Trinity is three manifestations of God who is God The Father, God The Son & God The Holy Spirit, ALL three One. 🩵

[gcrrt]

The word "trinity' is not in the Bible - more false religion.

Jesus' rulership is only for 1000 years then he hands over the kingdom to his Father. This is when the three become one and the so-called penned word false religion trinity is - real and it's not real - because they are now one, not three.


Notice in verse 28 "that God may be all things to everyone"

1 Corinthians 15:24-28
24 Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that all things have been subjected, ’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.

[keithfuson]

No. There is no Trinity. Never mentioned in SS. God is never said to be three once in SS. The Father is the only true God. Jesus isn't. Jesus is the son of the living God. Jesus is subject to his God forever.