My OrangeStorm Giga is Dead

My OrangeStorm Giga won't be Orange for long.

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[wilsistermans]

The OrangeStorm is a proof that not everything works if you scale it up. There are parts of the machine that should be redesigned. The printbed is one of the problematic parts. Layer adhesion is not uniform enough. Might be due to heat differences and expansion. Just a little draft can be enough. The motors of the movement system are not strong or durable enough for the large movements.

[cybair]

My suggestion is to take this "opportunity" to install a pellet extruder on the Elegoo Storm. Because this printer really begs for a pellet extruder. Using filament material is way too expensive to be practical for large-scale objects.
EDIT: a minimum nozzle diameter of 1 mm might compensate for the lack of mechanical precision and problematic layer adhesion.

[Nick-jfil]

Joel, PLEASE DO NOT let Elegoo off the hook with this.

Their Neptune 4 Pro had all the same issues you have had, and after a YEAR, they couldn't fix their issues.

This sounds a lot like letting Elegoo from repeatedly sending out half baked hardware, and partially completed software. At some point, we have to hold crappy manufacturers accountable. But it seems the only time people hold them accountable is if it catches fire (see Bambu A1).

At what point do we tell people NOT to use Elegoo? How bad does your experience have to be to NOT recommend a COMPANY? Because I honestly thought the last Giga video would have been

[shawnmichaelis]

title should have been "my Orangestorm is GIGA dead"

[Vaasref]

Calling it an "OrangeStorm" is tempting fate it becomes a "BrownStorm".

[VincentGroenewold]

It may not be a specific Giga problem, but on the other hand... it is. Support being way too slow is a Giga problem and part of the experience. The center should not be an issue for adhesion, if it is, it's a Giga issue. Good to showcase and super nice to see it being modded (which still is a thing and why I stopped buying cheaper printers). :) I did learn a ton doing that, but at a point, you also see the huge amount of waste it produces when needed straight from the factory.

[BradClarke]

At the end of the day, the Giga is still a consumer grade printer in a giant frame.
I'm curious if a single, gigantic PEI sheet would help, assuming you could find one or have one made.
Even with that, you have that one spot where the four plates join, still the possibility of movement after heating.

[EmceeMC]

So, I think you should make the arm into a giant “High Five" camera mount. Scan your hand and cut a hole in the middle for the camera. High five!

[LibertyEver]

The OrangeStorm Giga was an audacious idea and kudos to Elegoo for trying something kinda crazy. I think it could have worked better if there was a single very flat bed that was designed not to flex when thermal cycled with a much larger nozzle and probably reverting to 3 mm filament - in other words, truly scaled up rather than scaling the overall dimensions but having the same low flow rate extruder and needing four heated beds. If I wanted to print four 300 mm x 300 mm objects, I'd use a 300 mm class printer.

[woodwaker]

This is where I give Prusa a lot of credit. My 5 head XL was not perfect when I first got it last fall, but Prusa has made so many improvements, in the software and hard ware that it is now almost perfect.

[titopancho]

Joel, Ivan Miranda is you guy. he has build several printers larger than the orange Giga....

[beaver.hacker]

Every time the word "weight" is used, he means torque. The weight of the 3D prints doesn't change but by holding them further from its center of mass, more torque is applied to his hand.

[rickmellor]

This is why I cancelled my OSG preorder after my initial excitement cooled off. I knew I wouldn’t have the energy to fight through these issues.

[MitchD]

I think the bed needs to be a single piece of cast aluminum and a 800mm square Keenovo silicone heater and single 800mm flex sheet. Yes it’ll cost half of what the machine costs but at this scale even a $3000 printer that’s reliable is a good deal.

[Nordern]

Have you ever tried Primafix glue? I've only compared it against hairspray & glue-stick and it's insane how well it tacks the prints to the printbed at high temperature & it would be really interesting to see it compared to the nano coating etc

[segment]

In my experience. When you scale up stuff by double, the problems goes up cube.

[ScytheNoire]

Printer should have been named Elegoo LemonStorm Giga.

[clutch]

I would be so pissed if I bought that and that happened.

[joaquinalfonsorosalesrodri]

haven't you tried or looked for a FR4/G10 sheet of the size of the printing surface, I think it would be a way to avoid having those problems in the joints, and you would have a flatter surface, Greetings from Mexico

[Z-add]

Plenty of companies make large printers. elegoo just failed at it at this low price point.