The Nord Stream pipeline mystery uncovered

UnHerd's Freddie Sayers meets Bojan Pancevski, to discuss who really blew up the Nord Stream pipeline

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It has been the most contested and mysterious event in the Russia-Ukraine war. Who was responsible for sabotaging the Nord Stream pipelines that connected Germany to Russia? The Russians? The CIA? Or Ukraine itself?

Bojan Pancevski has had access to the plotters themselves and tells Freddie Sayers an extraordinary story of extra-state actors, deep sea divers, bombs and sailing boats that sounds more like the plot of a movie than real life. Except, according to this prize-winning investigative reporter, it's all too real...

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[patera]

"The CIA guy who would have been in charge of the operation told me they didn't do it."
Good enough for me.

[chegayvara]

To save people time: Freddy asked this guy if he has any evidence (one infers documentation, perhaps even footage of planning or the event itself) and he says no.

[JellyDonat]

"the cia guy told me they do diversity training, not blow stuff up anymore" LMAAO this is serious journalism

[michaelcecil]

This story is all about the US now throwing Zelensky under the bus. There is literally no way that this could have happened without intimate US involvement.

[allydea]

There's a criminal level of non-sense this guy is spewing. It is beyond insulting.

[Chris_Patton]

The last time my intelligence was this insulted, there was a whole tank of nitrous oxide involved

[moriartyco]

America has said for years that they wouldn't allow Russia to supply gas to Europe, read their lips!

[gds]

The CIA stopped doing bad stuff in the 1970s. Lol. 🤣 This guy is hilarious.

[bramanko]

There's a convincing argument here: 1) senior CIA says that the CIA no longer does stuff, they're only doing diversity trainings these days and USA doesn't "operate like that" – Ukraine does, 2) this guy says he's good at being a journalist (congrats!), 3) he was told by some Ukrainians that the meeting took place and things were said decided and then acted upon. So given he is good at his job he would know if he was being lied to by his sources. Case closed

[Truth_Hurts]

Next on UnHerd ' How Iraq stockpiled WMDs"

[fronabulax]

so why did Biden announce the destruction of the pipelines?

[adelatorremothelet]

Let us run some numbers .
When the explosions happened the seismometers recorded an explosion equivalent to 500 kg of TNT.
I assume the intent was to blow the 4 ducts, so 2, 000 kg of TNT or equivalent are required.
Handling that amount of explosive at a depth of 40 to 80 meters requires a team of expert divers who are also experts in explosives and who will operate in complete darknes remaining underwater for 2 to 3 hours while they put the explosives in place and place the timmers.
Assuming it was done by one ukranian team:
1) Someone smuggled 2 tons of explosives across the Ukranian-Polish border or bought 2 tons of explosives in poland
2) Someone got a hand on 40 o2 tanks : 4 divers will require 2 tanks of oxygen per duct, plus some spare tanks 2 x 4 x 4 = 32 oxygen tanks, plus spares = 40.
3) After each inmersion the teams must rest 12 hours before performing another inmersion. 12 x 4 = 48 hours + 12 hours of inmersion = 60 hours.
4) Getting the exact location of the pipes requires a sonar.
So a yatch was wandering around critical infrastructure loaded with two tons of explosives (smuggled or bought in the black market) for three days and no one noticed? Plausible, but hard to believe.

[simonvalente]

I'm sorry. This guy is simply not credible.
I'm out....

[andyjones]

The point about Sikorsky is that everyone on both sides immediately understood that this was the USA's doing, however they did it. And this has only been confirmed by the way the investigation has been handled. Germany does not bow to Ukraine or Poland. Germany bows to the USA.

[maddIn]

what a nice "coincidence". Ukrainian "businessmen" paid for the thing and some private divers delivered. So no government entity is responsible.

[Chris_Patton]

I'm supposed to believe this joker over Sy Hersh? Please.

[viv-sg]

So why did Sikorsky tweet "Thank You USA"?

[jobl]

Hersh’s report sounds better than your boozey party on a boat mob - just saying

[carpetcrawler]

Freddie: What is your evidence for your story?
Bojan: The other stories are fantastical.

[Joooools]

The CIA couldn't have done it because they're not those sort of people. Great work.