Who’s The REAL Successor To The ROMAN EMPIRE? #history #rome #empire

[WrinkledPaper]

Maybe the real Roman successor was the friends we made along the way

[JTL]

Italy and Greece. Have the most valid in terms of both historical and theological claims.

However, France and Germany have valid claims.

[kianabbsi]

The successor to the western Empire is Italy and the successor to the eastern Empire is greece

[Science-evhe]

Why Russia and not Greece? Is it because the Greeks aren’t the successors of the Byzantines? Or because they were conquered by the Ottomans?

[Pinkili]

The successor of the Western Roman Empire is Italy and the succesor to the Byzantine Empire is Greece cuz the meaning of the word "Byzantine" means "the land of the Greeks". Also, Byzantine Emperors followed Eastern Orthodox which is still followed in Greece today. So, Roman Empire's successors are Italy and Greece. Ottoman Empire and Russia has nothing to do with Romans.

[Carpediem]

Spain. Is the successor

Vatican as far as I'm aware has made no attempts at claiming that title and Russia I mean somewhat. Politically they did, they did have plans on restoring the Byzantine Empire portion under Catherine the Great which is why one of her grandkids was named Konstantin an homage to Constantine I the founder of the Eastern half and Constantine XI the final emperor.

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[Mrshark]

Britan would fit more for the Western roman empire or at least, before the protestant reformation

[Walterdecarvalh]

Actually Spain is the legal successor, the Vatican is the cultural and proper successor.

[felixnimo]

There simply aren't successor states.

[T_Way]

I'd say if you control the cultural capital of istanbul/Constantinople or Rome you are a successor state to Rome I would definitely agree that the Italians are Romen

[Prussiankingdom]

Also for no reason why Serbia and Bulgaria were considered the 3rd Roman empire

[Kanto_xDrip]

Spain rather the king of Spain has the title of Roman Emperor basically Spain is the successor

[davidbalogun]

Quite literally nobody but if you wanted to get an answer that makes even slight legal sense then it's Spain

[pomodorino]

It is Italy for the west and greece for the east

[Wendeta-hqcp]

True. On a national point it would be Italy and Greece, for obvious reasons. Far off claimants would be France (Frankish Empire) and Germany (Holy Roman Empire).

[justinhammer]

Me. Not many people know but it's actually me. There was this guy ahead if me but he died. Peacefully so it's all good. Anyway it's me.

[omarrian]

Me.. I'm the true suceser to the Roman Empire

[MrShadowThief]

>defined by christianity
Nevermind the fact that it was pagan for most of its history.

[morsecode]

While not legally Roman, I see the Ottomans as the closest thing early-modern Eurasia had to a “Rome-like” entity for the following reasons:

• Based around the Mediterranean.

• Multiethnic.

• Headed by a Sultan, the Islamic version of Emperor (for those curious, the Islamic version of king is Emir.) As well, the Ottoman sultan was the only head of state after the fall of the HRE to call themselves Roman Emperors.

• From 1453 to their downfall, the capital of the empire was Constantinople, one of Rome’s old capitals.

• Added in edit: Them being culturally Turkish and Muslim would just be a further evolution to reflect the changes of the times, as the former lands of Eastern Rome in Anatolia, the Middle East, and North Africa had become Islamized. It’s kinda like how Rome gradually changed from Latin and Pagan to Greek and Christian once it split in half in 395, as the Hellenic influence from Alexander the Great’s Empire and before never went away in the East.

The only thing standing in the way of them actually being a further continuation of Rome was that they didn’t use Roman/Byzantine numerical succession for their sultans starting with Mehmed II (who would’ve become “Mehmed I” had they did. Or if you wanna Grecify/Latinize the name, he’d be “Mahumetes I.”)