Are Golf Lessons REALLY Worth It??? - Golftec Review Week 4 - Golf Test Dummy

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Just to be clear - Jessica is the star of this series. She’s amazing! LOL

I think lessons are totally worth it. I will say this, it’s definitely about the instructor/coach - which why people drop off (outside of financial obligations). If you have an instructor like Jessica that can show you that you’re developing, you will stay motivated. Coaches are like managers - in that people don’t leave jobs or companies, they leave managers. If you have a great coach like Jessica, you tend to stay the course as she seems to have a personal investment in her clients.

Lastly, I think we feel in our own minds that our development/improvement cycle is faster that what it really is. I’m blessed to still have some athleticism at my age so I get really down on myself when I don’t feel like I’m getting better. Improvement is going to take time - it’s a grind until that one day the wheels finally catch and then you’re on to the next level.

kenny_inc
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Reverse every natural instinct and do the opposite of what you're inclined to do, and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing.
Ben Hogan.

Moe Norman said he used to try to hit his positions and he'd practice holding himself in those positions for a while to get muscle memory!

themoonster
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Hi Chad, been watching your channel for years. Love your work. Ive just come over from Jim Venetos system . I tried it because of old lower back and elbow injuries. Yeah, i could play more often but that was it. Im in thailand and the nearest golftec place is singapore. After watching week 1 to 3, I'm intrigued and trying some of this at my local range. Not as much hip turn means my lower back is happy and so far, so good.

ozjohnno
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I’m starting lessons at Golf Tec next weekend thanks to this series. Great job Chad!!

Mat_Scott
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It was great meeting you the other day! I am currently taking lessons at Golftec. I was newbie. Started in January. I love learning how to play this game. I signed up for a full year. BTW, I have been watching your videos even longer 😉

toapuni
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To hit a fade. all that you need to do is approach the ball from above the shaft plane with the clubhead then onto the plane more or less at impact and then to below the plane in the follow through ("swing left" for a right hander) or as some people term it swinging from high to low and vice versa for a draw. This way the clubhead is never completely squared to the arc of the clubhead and the ball will automatically fade (more for a driver than an iron).

This is for a fade the starts left and works right for a rightie. I still see the tendencies that I've talked about the last couple of times and your body motion continues to look way better in many of these swings. Since the clubhead is tending to move around and low very fast in the backswing, you are reverse looping it a bit from flat to steep in the transition which means that you have a bit of a stall of the clubhead dropping behind your turn and then you're forced to release a little on the trail side and scoopy with the trail hand.

The move where you are leading with the back of the lead arm through impact is essentially a way of delaying the full release of the hands and arms and that becomes necessary in my opinion because of what I described above. If the clubhead comes up steeper in the backswing, then in can drop in behind the hips while you remain in posture as the club drops (completing a more steep to flat loop) and the release can happen more naturally and doesn't have to be held off so much.

I realize that you are working a lot on body motion right now and that's somewhat hard to balance with clubhead, arm and hand considerations but I think that if you incorporate this change at some point, it will help a lot since you'd be hardpressed to find a successful tour pro that has a clubhead, arm motion pattern like that.

Two of the flattest takeaways among known tour pros are Dufner and Jiminez but you still find in examing their swings that the clubhead takes much longer to pass the hands (start moving towards the rear of the body) than yours does. Jiminez also raises his arms quite quickly in the early backswing. These difference function in the backswing to create room for a more free release in the downswing. I hope that you find this helpful. Cheers.

timothypollock
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My coach @golftec is great. I’m 53 and never have played before. When I get really discouraged, he puts my side by side up from first swing to my latest. The improvement is drastic, but my competitive personality is never happy. I do put in the homework, I bought a spornia and a mat. I use hand me down clubs to practice with. I also bought a Mevo+! Wife wants to see progress!!!

chriszingler
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All seriousness Chad, swing looks so much better than at the beginning of the series. Keep up the grind. You mentioned committing to the changes, I started stack and tilt in 2020, with a 7 hdcp. Just got an update on that and it’s a 2.5. It takes a while! Thousands of range balls and dry swings in the house suck, but embrace the suck if you want to get good! (Dismounts soap box)

lessmith
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Another really interesting episode. Loved it and well done.

mrkipling
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Loving your journey man! Great series. Like watching your progress. Get some bro!

MrShanebizzle
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I have a unique question. I have watched several of your in depth methods on different techniques. I wanted to know which one you would recommend for a trail are dominate person?
I have cerebal palsy on my entire left side and I was hoping you might be able to recommend a technique that my best serve me. Thanks in advance

jamieking
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I am enjoying this series very much. I play with so many guys that play with love but not much skill. Many have never seen their golf swing. Sometimes it’s painful to watch😢

robertearle
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I just found out about an app called "swingtweaks" that you upload a video and a professional coach reviews it and gives you 1-2 things to work on. Only $22 a lesson, so far I've only used one but really like the feedback I got! Planning on doing 1-2 "tweaks" a month. I think that maybe the path forward, small changes over time that will hopefully add up to some big change over the course of a few months. Doesn't break the bank, you don't have to try to completely overhaul your swing, and your still getting professional advice!

Enjoying this series, how much longer are you going to continue it?

CatheCool
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As a Golftec graduate(?) I can say their system improves your golf scores but even with the discipline that Golftec adheres to…It’s the coach who is the most vital part of the improvement puzzle. Steve Fox (my Golftec coach) You dropped my handicap from 16 to 8 which was below my target. At 72 this is my lowest ever handicap and if Steve Fox was still coaching in. My area it would be even lower. Miss you Steve

verbeekh
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Imo the most important things to get better at golf is practice, lessons and a proper club fitting. Golf Tec can offer instruction and get you fitted into the proper equipment. For the past 33 years I’ve been playing with equipment that wasn’t fitted to me properly. After a 2 hour fitting session with the Wilson Staff rep I went from 2 degrees upright, 1” over to 1/2 “ over and 1 degree flat. I made much better contact. He also helped with my swing flaw of an early release and standing up through impact. My advice is if you find a good instructor stick with it and practice. Also let them look at your equipment too because those adjustments can help as well.

normansykes
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are you casting from the top, causing alot of your thin shots?

Mike-tpy
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Any reason this Golftec doesnt have a projector displaying ball flight etc on the screen like its providing on the TV? Was that a choice? If not, they need to step it up given what they charge for lessons there...

CallMeJackWagon
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Golf swings are like your fingerprints. It belongs to you. Brain Harman just won the Open with a swing I have not seen change since the first time I saw him. Scottie Scheffler is number 1 in the world and was Tied 23rd and his swing is as old school as you can get comparing it to Tommy Fleetwood and Rory. I think knowing exactly how you get results with your swing is better than messing with it or trying drastic changes. IMO...

alanduncan
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I'll say you have to put in the time. People that are good play a lot or practice a lot. Whatever your swing looks like can you repeat it over and over. When you can you will get a predictable outcome. You have to do the work. That's it.

topgunbass
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GTD : I took a quick look and didn't see any videos by you on "reverse the loop." I mention this because I've tried the various swing methods and always had some issues. Mike Malaska has a cool video ( also Jess Frank and others) explaining how this reverse the loop momentum puts you in the right position automatically. It doesn't seem logical - until you do it and see the results. I'm not saying it's for everybody because nothing is. Also, you don't have to be like Matt Wolfe; watch Fred Couples "Full Range Session" and you can see the purity of it. I assume you've tried this? I do the loop and just wait and the club seems to swing itself. The right shoulder and chest are driven to the correct position by the momentum, which Malaska points out. 100% of the guys I see on my course all hang back, come over the top and flail away. There's no way I could do this OTTFI that Christo is pushing on My Swing Evolution. For me that was a total disaster. Did you do a vid on this clockwise loop? Thanks.

tomdee