How Wish fails where Shrek succeeds⭐️ #animation #disney

Let's analyze one of the most fundamental story structure archetypes to see how Wish struggles to make Asha a character with a compelling story arc. If we look at Shrek, the character of Shrek has a compelling story arc because he changes as a character from the beginning of the movie. Disney animation usually contains compelling characters, so it was a surprise to see that this character doesn't have the strongest story. Hopefully, Disney can learn from its mistakes and apply it to the next movie.

[mmXxx]

Using Shrek is just the perfect amount of ironic. It was satirical of disney fairy tales but somehow better at them than this new Disney.

[sxatcychan]

Even better, Shrek did get what he originally wanted at the beginning of the third act. After seeing how hollow and empty his old life was, he returned to Duloc to fight for what he needed.

[adrivoid]

Even the example of another Princess, Tiana. Tiana wants to run her restaurant, and in pushing for her goal has pushed away connections to other people or enjoying life. She does end up running her business- but closer to those she loves and with an understanding that what you want isnt always what is most needed.

[MJ-]

Disney made an ENTIRE MOVIE about the concept of character wants versus needs: The princess and the frog. THERE WAS A WHOLE SONG ABOUT IT. How do you mess that up when YOU wrote about it?!

[accuratememin]

Mama Odie: "I told them what they needed just like I'll be tellin' you, you gotta *_DIIIG A LITTLE DEEPER"_*

[antman]

I think the best part of the stories where the characters get what they need and not what they want is when they are GIVEN what they want and realize that it wasn’t what they needed. Such as in Shrek where Fiona is taken away by Farquad and Shrek goes back to his swamp all alone and kicks out donkey.

[StewartFletcher]

A problem I've seen just from the premise is that we're supposed to hate Magnifico just because he's in charge. But, like, he didn't have to grant people their wishes at all. And their society seems pretty frickin' great.

[itsme]

The shrek franchise as a whole is a good example of this. Like Puss in Boots 2 entire plot is about characters realizing that what they want is not what they need, and the animation is wayyyy better too

[youngjung]

As someone who has read hundreds of books I can say you are absolutely correct. Well said, thank you for the video

[MegHanSoloCup]

Princess and the Frog is a perfect example of “what you want” vs “what you need.” Even have a song about it. You’d think Disney would be able to remember their own words.

[PramkLuna]

Asha could've started off by wanting all wishes to come true, but then realizing that wishes only mean something if they are accomplished without magic. It would fix some plot holes of the people of Rosas and King Magnifico losing his power in a more natural way

[eldritchteletubby]

It was done really well in Encanto. All Mirabel wants in the beginning is a power of her own, but by the end, she has the love and appreciation of her family, and she realizes that's what she really needed.

[ColdDaveball]

Or taking the example of a very recent Disney animation musical; Encanto: Mirabel WANTS a miracle/ to have special powers to be valued. But she NEEDS her family to come together, communicate, and see her worth without changing herself.

[darrylferguson]

It also doesn't help that the "villain" Magnefico was being quite reasonable - granting everyone's wish with no screening is obviously a bad idea. Disney's animated Aladdin movie literally shows how that can screw things up fast

[alias_crouton]

Hey, here's a cool idea. For Asha's story, maybe have it be that she makes a wish to the star to compel King Magnifico to grant all of the wishes. Then, as chaos and pandemonium ensues, she realizes to be careful what she wishes for, and has to break the spell on King Magnifico. That way, Asha would actually have a character arc.

But nah, Disney would never...

[plant]

What's even funnier is usually when characters get their want, that's not a good thing and then they'll realise what their need is (Megamind, Tiana, etc.) Ashas arc just literally wasn't finished

[LMRK]

Shrek 4 also covers the notions of "wishes", and how you should "Be careful what you wish for". (You know...the actual tag line of the movie 'Wish'? It's on the official poster for crying out loud!)

[angryvaultguy]

People seems happy and the "antagonist" looks to be doing a good thing, the protagonist seems like the one thats selfish

[jonathankruger]

This could be expanded to a longer Disney VS DreamWorks video
Puss in Boots 2 the last wish can be used as another example

[FandF]

In my creative writing class, the most basic thing we were taught is that a good story needs a character who wants something, something gets in the way of that, and the character changes as a result. It’s the basic equation for a compelling story.