The Early Church was 100% Catholic. Here's Why... w/ Joe Heschmeyer

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In this clip, Joe Heschmeyer gives evidence of why the Early Church was Catholic.

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I spoke with a Biblical literalist who was a Southern Baptist a few years ago, and even he admitted the early Christians resembled that of what we see in Catholicism. Knowing that; why he remains a Southern Baptist beats me.

emilioalonzofrometa
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I was an athiest, then God led me to this podcast and now I'm saved, praise lord

SmoothBlack
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Jesus was literally telling John in the book of the Apocalypse to write to POLYCARP in Smyrna. My mind was blown when I saw that connection. The Early Church was the Catholic Church is such an amazing book by Joe. Love it.

FlexCathedrafromIG
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As an Orthodox Christian I would say that when St. Ignatius says that it is necessary to be in agreement with Rome, he means that this is necessary for the sake of church unity, since Rome is the first see in importance, and the other churches look to Rome for leadership. He isn't saying that Rome cannot err. Today even some Roman Catholics claim that the current pope is a heretic. What matters is not blind obedience to Rome, but maintaining the faith once handed to the apostles.

William_Farmer
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It is jaw-dropping to see that there are so many people who fervently believe that the Church established by the Apostles of Jesus Christ was Protestant, 1500 years before Protestantism existed in any way, shape or form. That is ignorance, delusion and bigotry on a scale that is hard to believe.

hugojames
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I’d like to think of myself as a pretty well educated Catholic, since I spend a fair amount of time studying our doctrine and its origins. However, listening to gentlemen like this expound on their knowledge base makes me feel terribly ignorant. There is so much I don’t know. I feel truly blessed to be able to listen to this particular podcast and a few others.

danielmcnulty
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As a Catholic Christian I appreciate that even Martin Luther himself knew the Catholic Church is the original Christian Church. Quote, “Probably the most compelling evidence in support of the truth claims of the Catholic Church outside of scripture and the Church fathers, probably comes from Martin Luther himself who wrote in 1522AD in a sermon,
"Accordingly, we concede to the papacy that they sit in the true Church, possessing the office instituted by Christ and inherited from the apostles, to teach, baptize, administer the sacrament, absolve, ordain, etc., " - Sermon for the Sunday after Christ's Ascension; John 15:26-16:4, page 265, paragraph 28.
Notice the use of words "The true church". In other words Martin Luther is conceding that the Catholic church is the true church. A few years later (1537AD) Martin Luther would write,
"We concede - as we must - that so much of what they [the Catholic Church] say is true: that the papacy has God's word and the office of the apostles, and that we have received Holy Scriptures, Baptism, the Sacrament (Holy Eucharist), and the pulpit from them.
What would we know of these if it were not for them?" - Sermon on the gospel of St. John, chaps. 14 - 16, Vol. 24 of LUTHER'S WORKS, St. Louis, Mo., Concordia, 1961, 304.
Clearly the above is an admission of the preeminence of the church of Rome that the father of the reformation is admitting.” God bless you.

SpiritofCatholic
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GLORY BE TO THE FATHER, TO THE SON, AND TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. HALLELUJAH. AMEN.

SacredReason
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PS. ordered the books, that your guest spoke about and i will read them... and absolutely if this is valid, then understanding will follow.

icilahmb
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Thank you for this accessible explanation.

marymcreynolds
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1. What came first, the Word of God in the Church or the Bible?
2. When did the Bible, as a book come into the world?
3. Who compiled and translated the scriptures into the book of the Bible?
4. Who numbered and added chapters & verses to the Bible so things were easier to navigate?
5. Who preserved and kept the book of the Bible alive during all ages?
6. What group of people were inspired by the Holy Spirit as to which texts should be in the book of the Bible?
7. Who then removed books from the Bible on their own accord to create their own narrative?
8. Who said they would never leave or abandon us and would be with us through all time?

elitisthavoc
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A Catholic Christian doesn't care about mockery, attacks and insults. he remains focus on the Word made flesh. He knows the person of Jesus Christ very well. He does not doubt or confused because he knows the Gospel and the teachings of the Church well. He knows how to detect the Word in the midst of words. He is focus on Faith, Hope and Charity and on the Holy Cross.

adelbertleblanc
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I’m reading his book currently :) very good so far just started the Eucharist and the Mass section

AJanae.
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I cannot wait to meet Joe tomorrow in Draper Utah for some great talks. I'll be buying that book for sure.

lizethcantu
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The Orthodox Church says there was only the Orthodox Church until the Catholic Church started pushing the pope as head over all other Bishops, and I believe other things lead to the schism, which again according to the O.C. the R.C. moved away from what the Church was, thus creating the Roman Catholic Church, while the Orthodox Church continued as the Church had been from the beginning. They have a pretty solid argument.

jerimyspencer
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When did the Church stop being conciliar? There doesn’t seem to be anything in scripture or in the church fathers that suggests that the bishop of Rome had any supremacy over councils, at least not in the unilateral, infallible way defined by Vatican I. Could Peter have overturned the Council of Jerusalem on his own? What about Silvester and Nicaea? I have a hard time hearing the claim of novelty against Protestants when a similar novelty exists as to the highest form of authority in the church on the Roman Catholic side.

felixcharles
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I shared this post with a friend that shared a post stating that the Catholic Church was founded in 325 AD in the Nicaea Council...

rafaelj.benero
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I’ve been reading all the earliest writings. …. And they use the terms bishop and presbytery interchangeably to refer to the same office. Usually referring to a plurality.

kazmynjohannes
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Wonderful work. I’d like to hear more about issues outside the low hanging fruit. Links please.

ginbejury
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What of the Orthodox churches? At the council of Nicea the vast majority of bishops were from the east and were not subservient to the bishop of Rome.

namasi