The Talk Show Live From WWDC 2023

John Gruber is joined by special guests John Ternus, Mike Rockwell, Craig Federighi, and Greg Joswiak to discuss Apple’s announcements at WWDC 2023. Recorded at The California Theatre in San Jose, Wednesday 7 June 2023.

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Time Stamps:
00:00:00 – Welcome
00:01:40 – Kolide
00:03:22 – John Ternus: Mac Hardware
00:38:42 – Mike Rockwell: Vision Pro and VisionOS
01:21:12 – Craig Federighi: Platforms and Software

[SxC]

Craig Federighi continues to be the coolest man alive.

[stalman]

I don’t know how you’ll be able to keep outdoing yourself with these events. It’s as much of a must watch as the keynote

[tapashmajumder]

Anyone watching this video please don't miss the last 1 minute. Craig Federighi ... respect!!!

[zollotech]

Thanks again for giving us more insight to Apple. It’s always great to see some of the challenges and thoughts behind the products.

[ThePhilTorretto]

FINALLY! I’ve been refreshing my YouTube feed for days now! 😂

[nym]

If Craig would become the next CEO I would feel very comfortable with Apple being in good hands.

[rivereee]

Didn't think Craig could get any more awesome BUT HE DID

[akowalz]

I’m not asking for John to ask more incisive or difficult questions - I’d settle for softballs if they were delivered at a reasonable and coherent pace! Just give the execs a simple question and let them speak

[keithedwards]

my brother in christ, some of your questions are three minutes long — get out of the way!

[tagunX]

Not sure I could do it but I think Gruber needs to chill or have prepared better.

[flowtoolz]

If only John could let go just a little and ask short questions at a reasonable pace 😅

[AetherSummers]

It’s always great to hear from the highest levels of Apple in an informal setting. Craig’s solo is a new god-tier moment in Apple history.

Just some constructive feedback though, John. The long pauses and long winded questions really disrupted the flow of the conversation for me. Sometimes the questions were several minutes long. It’d be great to hear more short, open-ended questions that encourage the guests to be more conversational and open. Anyway, great job on the overall production. I look forward to next years!

[IMeanComeOn]

Happy to see the acknowledgment of the Believe shirts. Good job Siracusa.

[FelipeFermin]

I think John Gruber is very insightful and his comments are deep and very intelligent but when you’re conducting an interview, you just have to ask good but short questions in order to let the guests answer and talk the most. Just let them dig themselves out the holes where your questions might put them and don’t try to answer for them. I mean, Jos, Craig, John Ternus and the other one are more than capable to navigate the most difficult questions that may come their way. Just don’t help them.

Please note that I am not trying to be disrespectful to Gruber. I think that especially this Talk Show should be about hearing what Apple has to say and less about John Gruber’s insights.

[intnrmri]

Constructive criticism: very average questions, you stated a lot of “facts” that were immediately debunked in the answer, especially in the first half about the products. Too much talking by the host about irrelevant details, please as more high level questions if you don’t fully understand the technical details. I feel we could have more out of these conversation with more focused questions and less talking, the guests were awesome and would provide awesome details into the challenges of their work but instead were asked questions about price points. That is such a surface level detail and there’s such a deep level of work behind these products and strategies. This episode ended up being meh for me. Good luck next time.

[ArjunSharma-lunn]

I've been a fan of Gruber's work for a long time, and by no means am I an Apple hater. This interview felt like a significant step down from talk shows of previous years.

Apple has made a bunch of announcements that lead to a number of interesting questions about the role and future of computing – but despite that, Gruber's questions failed to approach anywhere interesting.

Most of the interview was him going on long, positive tangents about Apple, and then implicitly prompting the executives to follow up with whatever marketing speak they wanted to bring up.

I'd really like to see shorter, more focused, and tougher questions next year. Joanna Stern's also interviewed these same executives in the past, and I think she sets a much better template for what this format should look like.

[AlexRyder-yr]

The pace is unbearably slow, and Gruber's pauses after every other word make it very painful to watch. I just couldn't take it after first 20 minutes.

[jeremykeens]

John is John - it was why Marco used The Talk Show to test trim silence
As John has said in the past, to get these execs he can’t ask questions they would not be willing/able to answer.
TTS is always a rambling attractive mishmash.

[ViktorHristovvv]

That one more thing with Craig at the end was super cool! But yeah, like many others in the comments, I really wish John did not take a few minutes to formulate a simple question out of fear to offend the executives.

[cactustweeter]

Craig Federighi. Technically brilliant, and now we found out he's musically gifted as well. What an amazing person.