Why I'm not in the PCA (or similar denominations) - KingdomCraft

Music:
The first song is the music for Psalm 36 of the Genevan Psalter by Claude Goudimel. The lyrics to that can be found here:

The rest of the music is written by me.

[AmillennialMillenial]

I get your point, and I respect your position. I just don’t see any realistic way the Episcopalian/ELCA/PCUSA can be brought back to orthodoxy; they trip over themselves to affirm whatever the latest social justice craze du jour is.
It’s a little bit different in the Lutheran world with the Missouri synod having been founded on its own rather than splitting from the mainline. But just as I go to a Lutheran church because I believe in its doctrines and don’t go to other churches, say Baptist, because I have doctrinal disagreements, so would I not attend the progressive mainline. At this point they believe, teach, and confess different things that I don’t believe, and I don’t see the point in going to a church that believes, teaches, and confesses what I don’t believe in.

[RunningOnAutopilot]

I like your reconquesta talking cause it's a thing I've just never thought about before and it's interesting historical narrative

[SemperReformanda]

As long as your personal church has a genuine believer pastoring it, I can't entirely disagree. Our PCA church is beautiful, and we revere the sacraments. The PCUSA church i used to go to was full of topical sermons and all for "open-mindedness".

[mmtoss]

I believe retaking the mainline denominations is a good thing. But if I was raising a family, I’d probably stick to the evangelical denominations.

[kellvey]

I’m not sure if influencing culture is the point, though. I think we’re supposed to go and make disciples, who then turn away from the ways of the world. We see the result of widespread Christian culture in areas like the Bible Belt where everyone is churched, but far fewer are actually showing evidence of being born again

This is a stellar build, btw

[hewziheng]

Even if the conservatives re-take the mainline denominations, does that necessarily mean we will also re-take our affiliated institutions? I cannot imagine Harvard turning back conservative Puritan just because we re-take the mainline denominations

[moisheplatinumberg]

Great video. One of my biggest problems with the way boomers ran the country into the ground is the way they just walked away from everything that presented even the slightest inconvenience to them. Examples include their first marriages, second marriages, their neighborhoods, their universities, and especially their churches. Their solution is always to move 2 exits further down the highway and keep making as much money as possible. They avoid the problems instead of confronting them. Love your videos.

[JohnRobenault]

I've never thought of things this way... You've inspired me to see if I can get involved in the local ELCA

[calebneff]

Interesting perspective. In the Midwest, mainline churches have less than zero impact on culture. We just don’t have many old historic churches, and the ones that do exist are often occupied by Pentecostals, baptists, non-denoms, and so on. I think what you believe is great for the east coast, but you’re applying your very niche perspective to the whole country, where the PCUSA might exist out here, but has the same influence as any theologically liberal church, which is almost none, if not just none.

[gustavoabreu]

14:34 I think it'll be good than the PCA can finally get some better buildings and the PCUSA can finally like have people who go to heaven. 🤣🤣💀

[furnacecreekbaptistchurch]

History says you are unlikely to retake a denomination once its institutions go liberal. It's only happened once, as far as I know. The only group of churches to save themselves from theological liberalism and retake their institutions is the Southern Baptist Convention in the 1970's - 1990's, and that was only possible because of Southern Baptist congregational/committee polity applied at the Convention level. The majority of pastors and members were still conservative and could vote in convention presidents who appointed committee members who appointed trustees who could control institutions. Some of the annual conventions in those days had over 40, 000 people attend to vote. It was a huge effort requiring a lot of energy and organizing over a couple decades. Do you have any of that actually going on in the PCUSA?

[kellyosullivan]

Not sure if the history of the PCA, but much of the ACNA was kicked out and sued for property by the Episcopal church. Many of us did put up a fight, and some diocese were more successful than others. I wish it was as simple for us as the Op: Recon seems to suggest it could be.

[Mustard-Sneed]

As a Holy Roman Catholic I love your videos.
Please keep up the good work & God Bless.
Your videos (as well as my time around Methodists) have really improved my opinion of protestants.

[LTDLimiTeD]

My niece's school is run by a lot of people from the local PCA church. Thank you for helping me understand them better to help my family understand.

[keithwysocki]

In Lincoln, Nebraska, there are 3 PCA churches and 2 of them meet in older buildings that are former mainline church buildings!

[adamthibault]

Why then were the reformers ok for leaving Roman Catholicism? Shouldn't they have stayed and fought? Why not be a part of RC to do the same thing-they're older and have had a lot of cultural influence.

[fishtail]

As someone raised in a PCUSA church who left to join the EPC, and I also have been a member of several PCA churches, I get where you are coming from.

Tradition and nice architecture are just that, nice. But as a parent, I will raise my kids in a church that preaches truth, and many if not most PCUSA churches just do not anymore.

Your goal is a noble one, but IMO they are past the point of no return. Those mainline churches are getting more and more woke and progressive, all the way to the top.

[jhoughjr]

I can’t help but think if you need to retake you have already lost them.

[briang]

Being in, or at least having come to spiritual maturity within, the SBC (technically, I'm a member in a PCA congregation at the moment- not really an SBC church nearby and the org is an absolute cluster right now), weighing the options of trying to stick it out and sustain/restore a denom that's going apostate vs branching off and starting something else, this is definitely a tough line to walk. Then again, if some of out worst malefactors like Russell Moore, Beth Moore, Rick Warren, and now possibly Karen Swallow Prior, keep leaving, the problem may eventually solve itself. Now if only we could have a Christian as the SBC president...

[jamesheasley]

I am a new Presbyterian here. There's only two Presbyterian churches, both PCUSA. One is fully conservative while the other is liberal but the pastor fully believes in the Trinity, Christ's resurrection and other core essentials of the Nicene Creed. So I'm overall lucky and happy with the options I have.