Controller ALMOST Causes Mid-Air Collision!

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Allegiant Air Flight 485 had to take evasive action to avoid a mid-air collision with a private jet off the coast of Florida. Here's what you need to know!

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I’ve been a center controller for nearly 25yrs. I reached out to some contacts in that part of the country. ZJX (Jacksonville Center) had shut off Miami Center in that area due to volume and weather. This is a not unusual as there are some systemic issues with the airspace. There is also copious amounts of military airspace off the coast that restrict where civilian a/c can fly. Combine all of these variables together along with mediocre support from the “command center”, certain sectors have a fair chance of getting buried. In this case the Allegiant a/c was deviating for weather along with many others. Sometimes an aircraft may end up deviating further than anticipated and they won’t tell the controller. If 9 of 10 a/c go in one direction, then the last guy does something entirely different, the controller may not catch it in time. TCAS RA worked. It’s a good system. These issues don’t occur in a vacuum and there are usually many factors that lead to issues, just like a/c accidents.

forsakencitizen
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Thanks for the video. I am glad folks like you are here. I never watch/read local or national news for info anymore.

SRSOSChannel
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So glad I came across your channel my friend ! It's not my normal thing that I watch but it certainly is now ! Thanks 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

paulbowman
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From a passenger's perspective, this is another reason to keep the seat belt on. It also gives me confidence in the TCAS system. However, the FAA scares the hell out of me.

davidcole
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I was an Avionics/Electrical Tech for American Airlines. I don't recall an autopilot on any of our aircraft taking and responding to a TCAS RA. Not even on the 787. Great video though!

flightforensics
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On a new airbus the autopilot will fly the RA the system is called The TCAP TCAS Alert Prevention (TCAP) and is installed on A350 aircraft and on A380 aircraft delivered since July 2013. TCAP is also installed on all A320 family aircraft produced since early 2021, and on all A330 aircraft produced since October 2017 (since February 2016 on A330 aircraft with RR engines). Older airbus aircraft would fly the RA using the AP/FD TCAS is installed on all A350 and A380 aircraft. The function is installed by default on all A320 family aircraft produced since February 2017, and on all A330 aircraft produced since April 2012. Airbus developed the systems after a study found that only 40% of tcas ra were flow correctly by pilots . Now the pilot can allow autopilot to fly the resolution or fly it him self following the vertical speed guidance by climbing into the green area on the vs tape

hueginvieny
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Thank you for bringing all the details together into the full story. Strange that ATC allowed two flights in the same direction and altitude to get into a ninety degree conflict risk.

martinross
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I was just working on some of the audio I could find with ZMA, the turn east was per-request for weather.

avocadoflight
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Nice video, but I’m curious about something. You say the A320 diverted back to Ft. Lauderdale because of this incident, but that the TCAS worked perfectly and a collision was avoided. So why did the A320 have to divert back to Ft. Lauderdale? Thanks.

gwiyomikim
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Another educational video friend. Thank. Amen 🙏.

rodolfoayalajr.
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Great explanation and video. Thank you.

MediaRoom
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The only time I flew Allegiant Air was because my parents had already booked their flight to my cousins wedding, and I couldn't talk them out of cancelling (even offered to pay for their flights on SouthWest)...so...I ended up booking the same flight on Allegiant with the folks...figured we'd all die together🥺 (we didn't, but had engine problems on the way home...it just wasn't our time😳)

DeeDaDee
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Allegiant not having a great time, near mid air collision, and severe turbulence leaving several injured, and dropping around 4K ft quickly. July was not their month

partydemon
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I saw an Allegiant Air on 9/10 around 3pm going by with its gear out at an odd place and height so I opened FR24 and they had done 2 go arounds at PIE St Pete Clearwater and then they just headed off to Orlando Sanford. Came back an hour or so later. Curious what happened on that one

gregentclemory
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Have been watching for about a wk now after I stumbled upon your channel & really enjoy it.
Question: how does this system determine which plane takes action to climb or drop down in altitude?

_jackpot_scottie
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I think the atc audio would be helpful if you can find it

Michigan_Adventures
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Hi Hoover. Have you been considering doing a video on the Singapore Airline's flight that went through thunderstorms and find out why they didn't go around those storms?

videosinfrench
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You should do one on the JAL / ANA near miss about 10 or 15 years ago, would LUV to hear your take.

nyhfzpr
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Sorry, a little late to the party. I have been catching up on your vids. I am 45 year Aircraft Maintenance and Manufacturing (C5, C130), and recently retired and only a few hours logged in a 172 . My question is: If you are just starting an aproach lets say, Autopilots engaged, Auto throttles, all the wiz bang stuff on and clicking and you get a TCAS alert to climb. How much lag is there between your manual input and overcoming the aircraft protections for the configuration (if any) ? Thanks and keep up the great posts.

darrencontinoytube
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Off topic but can you please address why, when there's an emergency, the pilots have to provide souls, fuel, haz mat? You would think that souls and haz mat could be entered at the start of the flight and, as soon as the plane squawks 7700, it could automatically broadcast this information along with fuel in kg, tonnes, and minutes. It seems like an unnecessary burden on the pilots.

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