A Disagreement in the Alitalia Cockpit Has Deadly Consequences

A captain and his first officer are at odds over the data they receive, as they make their landing approach to Zurich Airport. It is a disagreement that ends in the crash of Alitalia 404, on November 14, 1990.

[Mario_]

I hope that guy got a chance to say "I told you so".

[SCADOOSH]

"I'm in charge so I'm automatically right" syndrome.

[maxhess]

Moral of the story: If one of the pilots wants a go-around, GO AROUND.

[matthendricks]

I am an airline captain myself...and this freaks me out entirely. If my co-pilot wants to go-around....we go around.... and talk about that later. As simple as that.

[suzyqwho]

Arrogance has no place in the cockpit.

[V-D.]

When you don’t see the pilot in a interview after the names are mentioned you know it’s gonna be a bad flight...

[heinrich]

I lost my father in this flight. He was an engineer working on a project there and was on the way home.

[bt]

0:53 Why does this dude look like he's being held at gunpoint and forced to read a script

[fedec]

The captain set everyone's fate because of his attitude. Unforgivable.

[TheSecondVersion]

Captain I have a question: Can trees fly?
"No, of course not."
"Then why do I see them outside the window"

[doktorsljukex]

To anyone wondering:
Out of 46 passangers including crew none have survived

[businessjetguru]

I was booked on this exact flight, but arrived at Milan Linate airport early enough to board the earlier flight, operated with the same aircraft, and crew members. I was horrified by the distractions on the flight deck. Flight attendants were allowed into the cockpit throughout the approach into Zurich. As a pilot, and having made this approach, over the mountains, I complained to the ground agent, after we landed at Zurich Kloten. I took a taxi to my hotel, with a colleague, and we ate at a restaurant. Returning to the hotel, we were peppered with phone calls and messages, trying to establish if we were OK. My wife was smart enough to ask if I had already checked-in. Having found out that I had, she knew that I was safe. My colleague was so badly shaken, I hired a car and drove us back to England. I have never flown with Alitalia, since that date.

[IceAge]

I am a (private) pilot. I was told if there is a disagreement always take the safe route and abort.

[Jason-hzcm]

“When you’ve been right so many times it can be hard to acknowledge when you are wrong”

[pauldarlington]

I remember decades ago, even as a student pilot, if I was in command and I called a go around I would never be questioned, challenged or over ruled. If something looks off about a landing it's always a good call to go around and it's the command pilots decision alone.
Another pilot actually touching the controls without first taking over command of the aircraft is even more shocking.

[oceaneagle]

I will use it for my management and leadership students. "Having 4 stripes doesn't mean you're always right"

[theotherside]

*Given the pilot's experience, why wasn't he worried that they were not seeing runway lights from a distance of 1200+ feet?*

[dmrxy.]

"GO AROUND!"

"Nonono"

Stupidest thing ive ever heard in aviation history

[patrick]

Its a miracle the camera crew survived such a crash

[legaldogecoin]

Wait why didnt it go “terrain terrain” “pull up”