Do Mormons Baptize The Dead?

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[ashm]

Hey telltale. I was Mormon from age 0-16. Just recently, at 18, I went to the Gilbert temple with two of my closest friends, who happen to he gay. That's besides the point, but also shows how much I have opened up to new ideas and lifestyles since leaving. I went there at 9 at night, and sat on the concrete steps and finally made peace with my past. Being able to sit at a place that only wanted to oppress me, made me cry. Tears of joy. I cried because I knew what freedom I now have. Free from the fake, made up doctrine, the fake people, and the worldly buildings this religion builds while claiming not to be worldly. I have done hundreds of baptisms for the dead from my time as a Mormon. I don't regret it though, because I know it was just a weird meaningless ritual. Fake. Like everything else there. But I made peace. For myself.

[dianacutie]

My dad's family will absolutely do this for him since he left the church. It's insanely disrespectful to me. Regardless of what they tell themselves, he would never want that. It sickens me, but they can't help it, they're brainwashed. I just wish they weren't brainwashed to disrespect.

[aaron]

Tbh nothing these cults do surprises me anymore

[JohnSmith-ywnk]

In Judaism there is a concept called 'avodah zerah' (worship practices of others). Judaism has such a strict prohibition against avodah zerah that if a non-Jew so much as says a blessing on an item, that item cannot be used by a Jew.

An example being the source of hair used for wigs worn by religiously observant Jewish women in public. For years this hair was sourced from India. Then, a few years ago, it was revealed that the hair came from women who were participating in a Hindu religious ceremony where their hair was cut off. As soon as this was discovered, there was massive panic because any wig made from this hair couldn't be used because of the prohibition against avodah zerah.

Considering how strong the prohibition against avodah zerah is, can you see how incredibly offensive it is to have a non-Jew perform a completely non-Jewish ceremony in the name of a deceased Jew is? Especially when that Jew was murdered specifically because they were Jewish. The intent of the Mormons doing this is utterly irrelevant.

In summary, for many religious people such as Jew, it's insulting in the extreme to baptize someone against their will, either dead or alive. It indicates a lack of respect for the dead people, their beliefs, and the belief of their co-religionists who are still alive.

[zachbills]

Ex-Mormon here. Baptism for the dead is not secretive. The other temple stuff is because it is batshit crazy.

[karenblan]

When I was 12, my parents made me go to the temple and baptize one my dead ancestors. (I'm an ex-mormon, but I'm still kind of trapped in the church because I'm 15 and my parents force me to go to church and stuff.) It was so weird. Basically, you have to go inside wearing church clothes, then they send you to this room where they give you plain white robes to change into. The entire building is purely make up of white and beige colors, and there's not a spec of dirt anywhere. The cleanliness is almost unsettling. Then you have to wait for your turn to be baptized by some man that works at the temple. I didn't see any of that creepy chanting stuff though, I think that's only for the adults. Hell, they don't even mention anything like that in church meetings. All they say is that the temple has sacred practices that can't ever be spoken about outside the temple. I had no fucking idea it ever got that creepy.

[rowanwhite]

*looks at title* Yup. They baptize people’s souls against their will. Anne Frank isn’t Jewish anymore because she was baptized

[anubis]

No. Baptism for the dead is not in any way a secret. They quite often openly talk about it. It is one of their core beliefs. I'm not sure why you think it is supposed to be a secret. The only thing they don't talk about is perhaps the specifics of what they do during the ritual.

[-biki-]

Mormons use baptism for the dead as a way to introduce youth to the temple rituals as well. As creepy as it all looks from the outside, baptisms for the dead is a lot more normal and a lot more in line with what Mormons would see outside of temples (standard baptisms for the living, no weird chanting nonsense). So it's actually a pretty good way for them to introduce their creepiness add an impressionable age.

it's incredibly common for youth groups to go do baptisms for the dead on a Wednesday night and then go out for ice cream afterward. in order to do baptisms for the dead you have to be at least 12 years old. it's not uncommon to be baptized for as many as 50 dead people in a single stretch. The chlorinated water gets all in your nose and you have to focus on breathing between rapid successions, it's actually quite difficult to stay focused on the "spiritual" moment.

also Mormons have gotten in trouble for baptizing dead Holocaust victims a number of times. It's more exciting if you find a famous person or group of people to be baptized for. It reinforces the feeling of specialness and being chosen. yes, people have been baptized for an in behalf of Hitler. Many times. so that's fun.

[rumrunner]

The thing about the Jews and Baptism for the dead is this: The Jews in question were killed in the Holocaust because they were Jewish. It is an insult to their memories to have a record somewhere saying that they are non-Jews post-mortem. It isn't about a spiritual thing as much as it is a respect thing.
I doubt most atheists would be okay with someone urinating on one of their loved one's graves. Sure, they are gone and it's just liquid that will evaporate, but it is the disrespect that the act represents that is the issue.

[View-scwf]

The baptism video made me put on my cult smile. I’ve been mentally out for only a 9-10 months now but that scared me... It showed me how deeply Mormonism is engraved in my brain. When I realized I was smiling I was horrified...

[briannabelle]

When I was in the church we’d go in big youth groups then get like ice cream after as a reward or whatever. It didn’t feel weird back then but looking back yeah it was really strange. They also go confirmations along with baptisms- usually done first- where you just sit on this stool and get prayed for (in behalf of someone else) with hands on your head

[budaskins]

They could at least make this a fun tradition by using a dunking booth & perhaps write each dead person's name on a ball before hurling it at the "proxy" to be dunked....

[rockd]

Demonetized you can’t say dead in your video

[JuiceMade]

I have a lot of mormon friends. I once was over at her house when her older brother and sister were going to baptize the dead. Needless to say i was creeped out.

[dark_fire_ice]

This cult is rapidly becoming the definition of disturbing

[bobjones]

I did this when I was 13, spend an afternoon getting baptized 17 times. It was in the LA temple. Kinda weird feeling even for someone who, at the time, believed it.

[wolfdreamer]

I've heard this before but what made me go what? Was I heard they baptized Anne Frank. Which to me is all kinds of wrong. I don't know if that's true but if so that's messed up.

[Kaoswindblade]

TELLTALE as someone who grew up mormon( I'm an atheist now) I wish to correct a couple of things there is no secret hand shake required to enter the temple, though there is one that is part of the temple ceremony for adults. And baptism for the dead is not a secret ceremony other than that is all sounded correct to me.

[reeermadne]

You don't only get baptized for your dead relatives, baptized for anyone really. I remember when I was active in the church and being baptized for dead people I didn't even know.