INTEL Hardware Encoding in PREMIERE PRO Was OVERHYPED!

Comparing real-world results of using hardware-accelerated encoding on Intel processors in Premiere Pro against the flawed benchmarks that are circulating.
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Table of Contents:
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0:00 - Intro & Thesis
0:34 - Disclaimers: This Isn't About Intel vs AMD
1:00 - My Old Editing PC - Intel i7-2600K & GTX 970
1:22 - New Video Editing PC - i7-8700K & GTX 1080
1:50 - What Version of Premiere Pro I'm Using
2:03 - What Kind of Projects I Export (Test Conditions)
2:43 - Playback Experience New Rig vs Old PC
2:55 - Export Settings for H.264
3:17 - Premiere Pro is Faster Than Media Encoder
3:28 - Results #1: 8700K vs 2600K
4:07 - Adding Intel iGPU Hardware Encoding
4:29 - Can't Use 2-Pass with Intel Hardware Encoding
5:36 - Results #2: Hardware 1-Pass vs Software 2-Pass
6:01 - Results #3: Hardware 1-Pass vs Software 1-Pass
6:28 - Intel Hardware Encoding Adds Glitches & Artifacts
7:33 - Flawed Benchmarks Using Software Only in Project Settings
8:50 - What about H.265? Faster, but Still Glitchy with Artifacts
9:35 - Conclusion & What I'm Using Now
10:28 - File Sizes Were Not Improved
10:42 - It's Not Worth Switching from AMD to Intel for This Feature

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[geraldundone]

Hey hey! 👋 Hope you enjoy the video. There is a table of contents with timestamps in the description if you want to jump around or skip ahead.
Remember that this video is intended to help you make the best hardware decisions for your money not stir up drama over AMD vs Intel. So leave the silly fanboy stuff at the door. Cheers! 😃

[TheNitpicker]

Insanely underrated channel, should have vastly more subscribers. Love the easy to understand but still detailed & well presented videos.
Already learned quite a lot on this channel, big thumbs up!

[Nutimatkni]

How does your stuff not have more views? No super bro hype attitude, just on the point, crystal clear, genuine awesome resourceful content.

[EposVox]

The people comparing the differences aren't using 2-pass at all, not using it to mislead people. 2-pass isn't recommended for web video, as just cranking up the bitrate a bit far more than compensates for the literally double render time w/ 2-pass.
QSV rendering can definitely glitch out, that doesn't surprise me at all. I've been testing it a bunch and have never had that happen, but common with early hardware encoding implementations overall.

Also, Maximum Bit Depth is also a waste of resources/potential export time. You have 10-bit source footage, but your final delivery is 8-bit regardless, so having that setting on doesn't improve your quality and potentially takes more time. (And could be causing issues w/ QSV.) Maximum Render Quality is great if you do a lot of scaling, though.

That being said, as someone who thinks the recent obsession with render times is quite absurd, choosing hardware for this feature is just plain silly.

And there are general stability issues with Ryzen with Adobe apps overall, which is part of what got people switching.

[eirjordan]

I not sure why it took so long for me to find this video, January 30, 2019. But seriously THANK YOU! I’ve been looking at my Ryzen 1700 everyday like its betrayed me since seeing the Hardware Canucks video....and man do I ever owe the computer a big hug. I was so determined to switch to a 8700K but the price and hassle of a new board and cpu, not to mention having to sell the old cpu etc just held me off long enough phew! I’m actually really glad to have gone Ryzen, since this year I’ll probably just pop in a Ryzen Gen 2 for a nice upgrade with no need to rebuild. Now I can edit in

[YuStudios]

Bravo on this video! Level of professionalism and information on par with the big channels. Keep it up dude :)

[HardwareCanucks]

Interesting. I've never seen glitches like that on my QSV exports, but i have experienced "pink video" overlay (in the first week of the feature release) with older projects that were opened with the new version of Pr. Also Premiere has been updated many times since the launch of this feature so its a lot more reliable now using QSV. I'm generally seeing a 1.5-2x speed improvement in encoding times on my machines (8600K / 8700K) with Hardware 1-pass VBR 60mbps 4K 24p H.264.
-D.

[paolonervi]

Thank you for the time you take in sharing your experience..

[InVoloConIssam]

I have the same problem and my advice to people is the same, please compare also (if you didn't notice that before) that if premiere tells you that the final file will be like 10 GB with the intel hardware encoding will be something like 3gb and if you analyse the bitrate you will notice also that it is not the same that you have set! (this doesn't happen with software encoding)

[rickvestuto]

What an informative and knowledgeable video
I like the Newer Gerald Undone !!!! Subbed

[slamwire]

This was so useful. For once someone genuinely knowledgeable and good at explaining without the hype! Keep up the good work my guy

[cozyandyummy]

This deserves a lot more views! You deserve a lot more subs! I'm gonna get a ryzen for my Video editing rig, then I bumped to a video saying INTEL has hardware acceleration which exports video on premiere faster. Glad I found your video! Thanks for the help! Damn you intel and your misleading features. Now I wonder which will do better video rendering.. 1050ti or RX 580..

[Nisse]

Hi Gerald and other interested people!
After watching your video, I did a similar test just now. I tested on two systems, with CPU-only, Intel QSV and NVENC. My material was three 4K 29, 97fps videos with some color correction, all movies on top of eachother with some opacity and so on to make it harder to encode, 2 minute video to encode. And it is important to mention that I do NOT get those strange artifacts in my exported media!
The computers used was:
A stationary with i7 5820K (6-core HT, no QSV function), 32Gb RAM, nVidia GTX 970 and SSD (2, 5" 550Mb/s)
A Dell XPS 15 laptop with i7 7700HQ (4-core HT mobile with QSV function), 16Gb RAM, nVidia GTX 1050 and NVMe SSD (1800Mb/s)
I do not use Adobe Premiere, I use Magix Vegas Pro 16, but it might be interesting anyways. Encoding with VBR 24/96Mbps as you did.
The results was as follows:
39:54 minutes 1-pass CPU render i7 7700HQ (stock clocks)
28:26 minutes 2-pass CPU render i7 5820K (3, 6Ghz turbo all cores (almost stock))
20:00 minutes 1-pass CPU render i7 7700HQ (stock clocks)
14:03 minutes 1-pass CPU render i7 5820K (3, 6Ghz turbo all cores (almost stock))
04:01 minutes High Quality, VBR High Quality NVENC GTX 1050, i7 7700HQ
03:25 minutes Intel QSV Default Quality, i7 7700HQ
03:26 minutes Intel QSV Highest Quality, i7 7700HQ
03:13 minutes High Quality, VBR High Quality NVENC GTX 970, i7 5820K

To me this is big difference in encodingtime, and the exported material is fully usable because it does not have any artifacts in it. I remember sometimes getting artifacts with older versiones of Vegas Pro using nVidia GPU for rendering/encoding, but not anymore.
I do not know why it is not possible to do 2-pass encoding with Intel QSV or NVEC, but from what I have read online about that, there is no point doing 2-pass rendering with those metodes because it does not improve quality like 2-pass CPU encoding can do. So I guess that is the answer :)
I can not see any difference in quality on my encoded media between 2-pass CPU or High Quality QVS or NVENC at 24Mbps.

Happy editing people!!
/Nisse

[IamFrozenTundra]

I was looking everywhere for something like this! Thank you!

[Franclinlim-localhost]

Yup. Super helpful. Thanks again as always gerald so informative.

[ms.]

Always being schooled by you
...Thanks for giving

[atitananda]

Gerald is always informative! A happy subscriber here :)

[jeromesolti]

Impressive video. So much knowlegde, crazy. Thanks for doing all that work to make these informative videos for us.

[MJCGAMING]

Great video man. I also use the 8700K but have a 1080Ti and 32GB of RAM. When I enabled hardware encoding, I didn't see much of an improvement in time, but a huge improvement in CPU performance. The load % dropped about 30-50%(It fluctuates) and the temperature dropped from 70-80 degrees C, to 50-60! Sometimes the program would freeze on me before encoding was enabled, but now not anymore. I am very happy with it. I use Magix software fyi for my 4K videos. I have a brand new 4K editing PC being built with a 9900K. Will have it next week.

[FoodTechLife]

I have a i7-4790K it has an IGPU which I had disabled. Then I saw the update to premiere so I decided to enable it. Yeah it didn’t apply to my CPU but regardless I did see it being used during rendering. The I started getting red frames in the test renders so it got disabled again.
The biggest change I saw was when I was going to sell my GTX 1070 for camera gear money. I put my old Nvidia GTX 570 to make sure it would work and did a render test. It took way longer to render a video! A basic video I exported on the 1070 took about 8-10 minutes. On the 570 it went in to the 18+ and stopped it cause who’s got time for that. Needless to say I ended up not selling the GTX 1070.