Dune (2019) vs Dune: A Game of Conquest and Diplomacy - Which One Should You Get?

Lance and Jeremy of Hard 2 Master compare Dune 2019 edition with the new Dune: A Game of Conquest and Diplomacy, both from Gale Force Nine. Check out their thoughts on this new streamlined entry level version of Dune and how it compares with the thinkier original.

Hard 2 Master focuses on more expert board games, or games that are "hard to master". Hard 2 Master is apart of Love 2 Hate, a board game review channel focusing on helping gamers find great games to play with their non-gamer friends.

The copy of Dune seen in this video is Jeremy's copy. The copy of Dune: A Game of Conquest and Diplomacy is Love 2 Hate’s copy. No compensation was provided.

[peterolotka]

I liked your review. We designed this DUNE game exactly for the movie goers who are not into 6 hour games. "Movie Dune" is more replayable for its audience. This is the "foot in the door" game...nice call. About the best parts. The best part is the battle wheel interaction between players.. And we understand that 'gamers' will play DUNE and non-gamers will play Movie Dune.

[Zazzalamel]

I think the stronghold overlay is used in a 2-player game when you reduce the number of strongholds. They are not used for making them look clearer as strongholds.

[CrisWhetstone]

Good nuts and bolts explanations. Much appreciated in a world of gaming videos trying to push bling and make people just buy everything you guys give us right to the point comparisons. Well done.

[michaelhannell]

I like the new version of the dune and classic dune. I like to call it baby dune and it gets my dune fix in if I can't get a good solid 5-6 players. It's a good starter for new players to learn some of the mechanics and the turn limit and max to an hr of play is great. I feel once you have it down you can graduate to adult dune. Where the true fun begins were true betrayal, strategy and backstabbing happens.

[trevorfielding]

I've been playing the OG Dune with a group of friends for a bit now. We love it, including my (incredibly smart) 10 yr brother.

My family is moving away however, and no one else are gamers like me and my brother. So I'm going to be gifting him the $35 "movie dune" so he can play w/my non-gamer Dad.

I personally think that anyone who is at least a moderate gamer can learn and love the OG Dune, especially if someone who has played before is teaching.

[EightThreeEight]

My plan is to get both, play Movie Dune first, they play Original Dune afterwards.

[gonzaguebouvart]

Merci les gars, c'était la vidéo que je cherchais pour faire mon choix avant l'achat de l'une des deux versions, je vais m'arrêter sur la version originale grâce à vos lumières ;)! Merci encore !

[piotrstojaowski]

Many thanks for a great review! I was thinking about buying a new version of the game that I really like. Thanks to you, I know that I can enjoy the great game resumed in 2019 with no regrets. Great job!

[overtured]

Old video but seeying now. I believe they gonna introduce the diplomacy rules with the new factions. Something very similar was done with Start WArs outer rim. More rules with interaction were introduced and made the game more filled with negotiation. So in the end will bemore like Optional rules attached to other factions.

[liliiaslobodian]

Thanks for a great review! I hate diplomacy in the old Dune, so I think "movie" dune with pure area control will be better fo me.

[edwardlasso]

I also compare ankh, rising sun and blood rage to the godfather since they are all dudes-on-a-map games (and designed by the same guy to boot).

[auntpookie]

Actually the original Dune was published by Avalon Hill way back in the 70s. The six player game is brutal....getting thrown under the bus by alliances that can shift and be totally unrealistic. Once I partnered with someone for half a win, and the next turn he deserted me and got a third of a win. I was trashed for the rest of the game. I guess that is Diplomacy in the old game. They had to change the tournament rules after this happened to enough players. Ironically we used to play original Dune it was without alliances and three or four players and it was great fun..without the worm cards allowing you to turn the game factional. When do you get six players together? Original Dune advanced rules..the Guild is all powerful. They can take their turn last. I'm keen to play the new game. I look at it the other way...the old game was brilliant but flawed. Karama and Truthtrance cards along with supplied combat and Alliances created a lot of confusion and ill feeling at times. I'm hoping for a more streamlined game..although would have like about 6-7 turns. Give the game a chance to settle and a chance for board situation to mature before calling the game. I'm glad they have reimagined Dune and I'm looking forward to the new version.

[FranzSchmidtYoutube]

Thanks for great overview. Decided to get 2nd expansion to Dune (2019), instead of buying "MovieDune".
My 2-step plan for getting my current group interested in Dune (which I will not even attempt with less than 6 *motivated* players):
* Cosmic Encounter (with Cosmic Incursion & Dominion) to introduce asymmetric play (helps to have same designers on board!)
* Dune Imperium (with Rise of Ix) for 4 players for same thematic feel / lower player count / shorter game without sacrificing replayability..

[evgeniy]

Thanks a lot for the review.
I want to interest my wife in board games.
I'm afraid that none of the games is suitable for playing in two

[sethwinslow]

I just found your channel a few days ago. As a gamer married to a non-gamer, I can relate. What I’d love to see (especially now since the end of year is approaching) is a top 10 list. Are you doing something like that?

[markziff]

got both!
Have I time & players for big Dune? If not "movie" comes out!

[samliveshere]

1:43 reusing the actors? legendary doesnt make marvel or DC movies.... what? nore does denis villeneuve

[Wolcik]

Movie hype created a hardcore Dune game version that is not hardcore anymore...

[Kai-szif]

good video but you spend too long breaking down irrelevant artistic details

[hadlee]

This convinced me not buy either. My group swear by the original Dune board game but we all know we'll never have the time or player count opportunity to play it again. I had considered getting 'movie Dune' to get the shorter game that plays well with smaller player counts, but this video convinced me not to bother.