Beethoven Vs Steibelt - Transcription

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From documentary "The Genius of Beethoven"
Improvisations based off of Mozart's "Der Vogelfänger bin ich ja"
Music from BBC Documentaries
Transcribed by me

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Steibelt at home, 5 minutes later: Grazie Signore (or in his case, Danke, Herr)

HenryTaiwan
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Ironically it is exactly the endless and meaningless arpeggiation in the "Beethoven improvisation" that Beethoven himself disliked. Beethoven's improvisations were reputed to be complex, filled with inner voices, and so well thought out as to appear composed. I am sorry to see that general audiences will simply perceive Beethoven's playing as the flashiest and fastest, when in fact it was likely much more than that.

PetrichorAllegory
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And the rest is just the same isn't?

Wait, wrong movie

RandomOrganist
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2:04 she realizes the vast overkill is unnecessary and that there is something much deeper going on

dutube
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Then a guy's gonna come in, take the clip and make it black and white, lower the framerate and say "*REAL* FOOTAGE OF BEETHOVEN!"

HeadmostCantaloupe
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Been looking for this for quite a while

christodoulostelemes
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Steibelt, was not as bad as portrayed in this movie; far from it, he was an excellent pianist. The example here was GROSSLY exaggerated to somehow describe Beethoven's virtuosity. The sad part happens when "Beethoven" begins changing music keys, which Steibert could do in his sleep too. So that was inaccurate. However, "both" in this film use Mozart's tune to improvise upon, from his 'Magic Flute'. The tune is called 'Der Vogelfänger bin Ich ja', (also known as Papageno's song).

zvonimirtosic
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Beethoven's genius actually lies in creating unimaginably beautiful harmony around a simple melody, this improvisation is more of a Mozart thing, but it's possible to see Beethoven do something like this in his early years since he was such a big fan of Mozart.

satrialesporkstore
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The theme of the "improvisations" is borrowed(/stolen) from Papageno's aria from Mozart's Zauberflöte.

eino
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Every pianist could play that, but not everyone can improvise that way 😮

frnjtt-pnwj
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this was really overly simplistic. in reality Steibert made a vbery impressive improvisation and Beethoven didnt pkay the same but took steibert theme and turned it upside down and just made a much more intelligent composition of it. Not just playing much faster etc. and it was long, very long.

matswessling
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Fantastic job with the transcription 💪

DanielCharry
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I always laugh at these music "battle" scenes in movies. The "winning" music has everyone cheering and clapping at how awesome the music sounds. But in reality, it's just musical fluff, with the technical demands of a grade school music exercise.

PointyTailofSatan
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This appears in my recommendation every time I open youtube 😂 nice transcription btw

bollongus
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Beethoven imitating Steibelt with that silly ass new accompaniment is hilarious

villain
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0:19 in the right hands the second chord contains also a F (i know it's not in style). I listened carefully and I'm pretty sure of it.

NeshMusicLover
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Good transcription som notes is when you have the eighth beamed to the sixteenth triplet it’s better to write as an ornament ie grace notes and such, because they look the same but they are very different in terms of phrasing. Seeing it as grace notes I would play the main note stronger but writing it as triplets you would accidentally play the triplet louder than it should be when it’s supposed to be a decoration not apart of the main structural melody it’s just some compositional tips to show hierarchy

Vic
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Beethoven got all of the damsels by just improvising

Teslav_music
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the trills make it seem more virtousic that it is

ricardorivas
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These musical 'duels' were occurring regularly I suppose, there was also the one with Wölfl, maybe at the behest of their publisher(s) (it seems the competition was also going on in print, writing variations on the same theme, not very different from how the Diabelli variations came to fruition).

christophedevos