General Chapman’s Last Stand | Revisionist History | Malcolm Gladwell

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Good fences make good neighbors. Or maybe not.

General Leonard Chapman guided the Marines Corp through some of the most difficult years in its history. He was brilliant, organized, decisive and indefatigable. Then he turned his attention to the America’s immigration crisis. You think you want effective leadership? Be careful what you wish for.

Season 3 (2018)
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ABOUT REVISIONIST HISTORY
Revisionist History is Malcolm Gladwell’s journey through the overlooked and the misunderstood. Every podcast episode re-examines something from the past — an event, a person, an idea, even a song — and asks whether we got it right the first time. Because sometimes the past deserves a second chance.

ABOUT MALCOLM GLADWELL
Malcolm Gladwell is president and co-founder of Pushkin Industries. He is a journalist, a speaker, and the author of six New York Times bestsellers including The Tipping Point, Blink, Outliers, David and Goliath, and Talking to Strangers. He has been a staff writer for the New Yorker since 1996. He is a trustee of the Surgo Foundation and currently serves on the board of the RAND Corporation.

ABOUT PUSHKIN INDUSTRIES
Pushkin Industries is an audio production company dedicated to creating premium content in a collaborative environment. Co-founded by Malcolm Gladwell and Jacob Weisberg in 2018, Pushkin has launched seven new shows into the top 10 on Apple Podcasts (Against the Rules, The Happiness Lab, Solvable, Cautionary Tales, Deep Cover, The Last Archive, and Lost Hills), in addition to producing the hugely successful Revisionist History. Pushkin’s growing audiobook catalogue includes includes the bestselling biography “Fauci,” by Michael Specter, “Hasta La Vista, America,” Kurt Andersen’s parody Trump farewell speech performed by Alec Baldwin, "Takeover" by Noah Feldman, and “Talking to Strangers,” from Pushkin co-founder Malcolm Gladwell. Pushkin is dedicated to producing audio in any format that challenges listeners and inspires curiosity and joy.

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Life is complicated, but too many people want bumper sticker solutions. Thanks for bringing us more than that.

edmundschubert
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I really enjoy these podcasts, in part due to the sober, thoughtful pace and lack of the all-too-common overblown delivery. thanks

richnfamous
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My first post after 6 weeks of thrilled admiration. My dear Malcolm, you did not address the insanely powerful California (and also other states but California all my itself will do given House Speaker McCarthy and his historic predecessors) EXTREME commitmemt from Okies on to having and exploiting cheap labor no matter what, including manipulating USA law and politics to assure that the "explotiable labor flows" into their control.

dtrinla
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The area between Austin/San Antonio to Monterey is a culture area that politicians have drawn a political line through. I know of no place on the planet where a political border through a culture area works. What we have done is the equivalent of locking a lid on a pot and turning up the heat — only thing that CAN happen is that it blow

mzmscoyote
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Watching a MST3K episode - they often had interesting shorts before the main feature film - I saw a short about agriculture in the US (during the 1940s) and they openly talk about the seasonal migrant works during the harvest time. One solution is to make temporary migration legal - like it was at the time of the short from episode 7/season 5 "The Truck Farmer" (Second Edition - Encyclopaedi Britannica Films).

We learn things watching comedy TV shows and I could not end this comment remembering episode 11/season 14 of South Park "Coon 2: Hindsight" and the Captain whose name is in the title - and his name is not Coon. Captain Hindsight had the superpower of explaining what went wrong with the help of his three seals "Should've", "Would've" and "Could've".

We can't all be Bill Murray on "Groundhog Day" so we better go into some more serious territory and remember the guy who wrote "The Economic Cost of Peace" (a quite misleading title, btw) John Maynard Keynes who said: "There is no harm in being sometimes wrong - especially if one is promptly found out." To fit the situation I would change it to "There's not that much harm when sometimes the things we do go wrong - specially if we find them out and promply repair them".

maxheadrom
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Immigration via Mexico is a tough challenge for the USA, but we don't have to solve it ourselves and it won't be the last challenge we face

benhills
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10:22 - AUSTERITY causes farmers to be the first people in our human food chain to
lack the amount of money they need to pay for the important work of moving
food from their farms to America's food preservation & distribution network

thomasd
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The definition of the Vietnam War as a border war, used here, is both stupid and dishonest. This is a story made up by the Saigon gang, a minority even within the South.
America's inheritance of the French war of reconquest of Vietnam after WWII was any number of things, but the armistice line of the 1954 Geneva Accords was not a border, and the interventions of Chinese troops, both helping and attacking Vietnam, were not in particular about any border.
General Chapman's assessment of the US's southern border "problem, " by contrast, is honest and sensible.
Fine meditation by Malcolm, too.

David_Lloyd-Jones
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16:13 - 2ND thing: Circular immigration is very hard to measure

thomasd
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33:39 - I'm available = I'm Malcolm Gladwell

thomasd
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You paint quite an idyllic picture of cross border traffic as it was in the past. Is that still the case or has there been significant immigration from southern Mexico and central America even from as far away as Venezuela or am I mistaken. Of course, the drug traffickers see the southern border as a viable pathway to the USA. What shall we do about them?

stephensmith
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Drugs and crime crossing the border - there has to be a solution aswell i‘am afraid.

josefrietveld
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No mention of the drug trade across the border, I wonder how come !!!!

jakejacobs
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Malcolm should take a trip to Compton, Watts and Inglewood to see how many black teenagers can't get jobs because they have to compete against illegal Hispanic grown men who are willing to work for cheap labor.
Shouldn't the jobs go to the citizens of the United States first?

cuban
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So a Marine General created a problem.

willmpet
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America argues about immigration over a country they swindled from the Native Americans....the irony is mind-boggling.

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