Winspace Hyper Wheels - What they didn't tell you.

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The Hyper wheels from Winspace have had quite a bit of media, in this video we look at some of the aspects behind their performance.

The wheels were lent to me from a friend to test ride over a period of time, they are the rim braked 50mm version. Unfortunately I wasn't allowed to cut them up ;)

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From the engineering purists perspective which is the side of the fence I sit on. We'd always tend to go for isolation. Basically, make everything else as stiff as possible and let the suspension ie the tire take control of the damping. I appreciate that is not to everyone's taste but it's more to do with not having to account for something that is uncontrollable.

The only other comment I had was around the moment of inertia for the winspace wheels. They are much lower than any other wheels I've had in to test and a large part of that will be the carbon spokes, a narrow section also helps a lot. You won't get the same level of damping purely by geometry versus other types and you get the benefit of fast acceleration. I know the term "spin up fast" is a term that I regularly use to ream muppet journalists but in this case the rotating mass is reduced so they will accelerate faster

I think carbon spokes will become the norm shortly.

Hambini
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Thanks for putting the time and effort into looking at our wheels! We especially love this video because the wheels you tested you got from a customer and we had no idea they were going to end up in your hands. All of our 'review' wheels are straight off the production line with no special treatment, but, it's obviously impossible for us to prove that. So, you getting your hands on these is great. Your test data is very close to our own. Very glad there was no use of the yellow pencil. ;) ;)

WinspaceBikes
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I wore safety glasses just to watch that spoke under 200kg+ tension! 🤓 Great content!

gplama
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Was waiting with trepidation to compare your lateral stiffness results to mine (although I tested the disc version) with slightly different hub geo. Similar results, sort of validates my cheapo test rig 😉. As to whether what is too stiff or too flexy, that's all subjective and maybe needs a dynamic response rig to judge that. Combination rider mass, frame, tyre, seatpost and saddle spring and damping rates. Let's build a four-post type rig for road bikes!

PeakTorque
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That's the best review of wheelset I ever watched on youtube.

dariuszj
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"I'm still running rim brakes but that's a whole another debate" love it. Rim brakes for the win! Great video, very informative.

danbanham
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Ive got ALL the big brands in my warehouse. Over 40 pairs....Zipp, Enve, Mavic, Roval, Lightweight, DT Swiss...over 40 pairs of high end wheels. Winspace Hyper 38 rim brake are by far the best all round carbon wheel Ive ever used.

For alloy the Spinergy Zlites are the best.`

I can afford any bike tech I want. Brands give me stuff or offer me stuff most weeks. Most of the time I politely refuse. Winspace Hyper 38 rim brakes is the real deal. I hit a massive baby skull rock with my front rim. Destroyed the tire and tube. Rim was fine.

Winspace are above most peoples budgets but if you can afford then and want the highest end carbon wheels then get them.

durianriders
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I absolutely love REAL reviews. Thank you!

SzajBajk
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I have ridden 4, 500 miles on Winspace Hyper 35 mounted to Winspace SLC frame on the poorly maintained asphalt roads in Northern California. The bike and wheels are light and stiff, but when I need to transmit every bit of power to forward movement I choose Winspace. I have used the Winspace for 200 km. brevets in the past and plan to use the combination again for a 200 km. this weekend. But for casual 40 mile club rides, I use Time Alp d’Huez on ICAN 40 because the bike/wheel combination is comfortable. My ENVE 5.6 on a Yamaguchi steel frame feels soft, fast and a delight to ride; “steel is real, but carbon is quicker” is true. I appreciate you testing bikes and components.

yendoradon
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Finally a test of these wheels from someone I trust.

kidsafe
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I own these wheels, as a 100-105kg rider theyre all sorts of awesome, noticed the lateral stiffness from the outset, nice to run calipers close without rubbing out of the saddle on a climb

tristenvanmaanen
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Awesome testing. I love how your findings are based on actual data

WowRixter
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thanks for your expertise on these wheels. I have 2 sets of HYPERs on my bikes, Giant and BH, have done total 16, 560 km by now and praise WinSpace for the product. Such great wheels at bargain price ! I ride quite bumpy roads in my area but the geometry of the wheels remain the same as it was out of the box, never failed in rim braking regardless weather condition nor any spoke braking nor twisting. I recommend these wheels.

virtualviews
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I love mine (65mm rim brakes). I put them on super stiff frame with rear caliper mounted on chainstay. Zero issues, never have brake shoes rubbing, spokes rubbing etc. But when wheels and frame are super stiff ride is harsh and I recommend more suplied tires like Vittoria Corsa 25mm (I ride clincher with latex tube). Fast, light, stiff, reasonable priced... you can't go wrong with these wheels IME.

mislevis
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Raoul made an engineering video and we've got GPLama, Hambini and Peak Torque in the comments. I need to change my underwear after this one

jackriley
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Love this guy. He’s the only youtuber I watch on 1.5 speed

nimernimer
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Thank you for the sharing the knowledge Luescher. We learnt something today. Cheers mate

glennsode
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Raoul, great review, love your testing toys. I'll be round the workshop Friday with my clippers to sort your lockdown hair out.

thejazzlord
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Failure issue is certainly valid point.
These wheels have been in the market for couple of years and I'm sure they've sold tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands
I have not heard of any such reports About nightmare scenarios of Catastrophic failure of the winspace hyper wheel

lilth
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Luescher Teknik's concern about the Hyper wheels applies generally to all bicycle carbon fibre constructions: the failure mode tends to be catastrophic. And where redundancy has been reduced (low spoke counts) catastrophic failure often means catastrophic consequences. This is the bugaboo that CF proponents still must contend with.

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