Volterra First Look | Windows Dev Kit 2023 Tests

I started testing the Windows Dev Kit 2023 (Volterra), an ARM mini PC from Microsoft, and here are some thoughts after a week with it.

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[kingcrimson]

It's a cool piece of hardware I think. I just ordered one. I am a dev, but that's not really why I'm getting it. I just like the idea of having a fairly powerful piece of ARM hardware with full Windows support to just play around with and test out, and yes probably do some development on the side as well! Sounds like fun.

[RocktCityTim]

You should be comparing the Volterra Dev Kit to the Apple M1 Dev Kit. Apple's Dev Kit was far from mainstream when it launched, as well. No Thunderbolt, for example. The missing software is WHY this kit exists - so that we can get those missing bits ported natively to their ARM platform.

[lowkeygaming]

Looking forward for it to be better. ARM is indeed the future and looking forward for a better competition in the ARM space.

[toadlguy]

Interested to see your comparison to Windows on Arm running on a M1 Mac Mini (Parallels as well as others using Macs VM). You’re the best.

[Lazzerman]

interesting! How would you compare VS2022 on Volterra vs VS2022 on Apple-M-Machines?

[paulharrison]

Apple created a similar Apple Development Platform before they brought out the M1 Mac Mini. It looked like a Mac Mini but had if I remember rightly an A14 chip in place of the faster M1 chip. An annoying thing about the Apple Development Platform was that although it cost something like $500, and so was cheap, developers were obliged to give it back to Apple when the M1 Mac Mini became available.

[obinnaokafor]

Use Microsoft Edge if there is no Chrome ARM64 support yet

[IkigaiLofiBeats]

With Powertoys you get PowerToys run that is golden for windows - that is a nice alternative for Alfred in MacOS. WSL is golden in windows - Starship Prompt with Nvim configured as IDE alongside VsCode for windows.

[grotteko]

Will windows for arm change
anything for linux users/people who need wine to run specific apps?

[tc]

It’s a great first go. Software improvements will take it pretty far before the release of nextgen qualcomm chips. A similar situation with the initial Apple arm dev kits

[Manuel-rlum]

Alex: not for consumers
Consumers: using web apps most of the time (YouTube, Netflix, ...)

Jokes aside, loved the video Alex! Packed with info in a short video.

[steveedy]

Hey Alex (or anyone else), were you able to download Snapdragon's Neural Processing SDK? It is listed under the arm native dev tools for Volterra. For some reason the SDK download is restricted and you have to request access for it. Unfortunately, it's been a week with no response from Qualcomm.

[braillynn]

Any idea if Linux works on the device now?

[tonijuanico]

Pretty review!. Now I've got my volterra (spain) I installed IntelliJ (beta preview win/arm64) and OpenJDK (win/arm64) and works nice.

[maxvamp]

@Alex, Another great video, Thank you!!

I was thinking in the last few moments of the video, is that someone doing .NET dev is very likely doing it for x86, and if they have this box, ARM as well, especially for things like debugging their apps. As they would likely be developing for both at the same time, I was wondering if you could show some debug scenarios between x86 apps and ARM apps, what performance hits you may take, or limitations, and for the killer feature portion of the video, show remote deployment and debugging bi-directionally between your x86 laptop, and your Voltera. I am not sure this would be possible in Parallels running Win11, but if you could try, this might be one area where a Voltera would be a better solution for ARM dev, than running in a VM. It's just a thought.... Max.

[DavidRadkowski]

“Boot time is pretty long, 20 seconds” - in 1990s this would be a great line for a standup comedy 😁

[MrHacross]

Unrelated question - is that an Aeron chair? Or something similar? I need a new chair and was thinking of getting one. If Aeron did you get a good deal on it and where?

[EduardoHernandez-uxgg]

Can you install Windows arm in M1 or M2? In VBox or other virtual machine

[johhny.d.]

Hey Alex, did you try to do the Geekbench OpenCL benchmarks?

[Erich]

docker not running on this machine, any advices?