𝗥𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲: 𝗡𝗲𝘄 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝘄 𝗦𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘀 --- CT 1.20.1 || World of Tanks

"The exciting spring season in World of Tanks continues with the Update 1.20.1 Common Test, Commanders!

We’re introducing random events and dynamic cover in Recon Mission, reworking the Crew perk system, and adding a whole new branch of Japanese tank destroyers. We’ve also read your feedback on the Onslaught mode and made some improvements. And that’s not even all."

- Quoted from main website

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Crew Skills got updated, so let's explain the new mechanics and rate all the new skills on a tier list...

Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:35 New Skill/Perk Mechanics
2:35 Skills are NOT Accumlative
4:55 Less Crew Members = Less Skills Enabled?
5:49 12 Retraining Orders are NOT NEARLY Enough
6:58 Rate Skills : Commander + Universal
11:27 Rate Skills : Driver
13:41 Rate Skills : Gunner
18:24 Rate Skills : Loader
22:15 Rate Skills : Radio Operator
26:52 Conclusions

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TLDW Summary:
Mechanics Explained

- No more perks (only comes into effect at 100% training)
- All skills work now, just at different effectiveness (e.g. BiA +0% > +5%)
- Crews will give bonus of skills to each other (Safe Stowage +25% > +30%)

- Loader skills (multiple positions) are NOT accumulative
(Can't 2x 'Close Combat', 'Shell Tuning', etc... Very Broken otherwise)
(Can't 2x 'Safe Stowage', 'Intuition' )


- Less Crew > Less Skills Enabled > weaker performance?
i.e. Manticore, Strv 103B, AMX 13?

- 12 Retrain Orders are NOT EVEN CLOSE enough
e.g [100 vehicles in garage] x [average 4 man crew] = 400 Retrain Orders Needed
- 'Firefighting' on non-Radio Operator crews are 100% retrained to another skill of your choosing...



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[frichk]

Only now I realised that your old pfp was Yukari too ^^
Finally watched GuP after postponing it for years...
Damn I wish I have watched it sooner! I'm in love with the series :3

[Panzergraf]

I'm pretty sure concentration only buffs base accuracy (dispersion), not dispersion on turret movement, which is what snap shot does.

[yaaseenali]

i agree with your assessment of the new skillz

[KomBackHordz]

I think the Practicality skill will be more important than you might think, on tanks that will have module damaged a lot like chinese tanks or ram built tanks

[patatacaliente]

The German medium where the loader is the radioman is the T-55A. The Tier VI tank with the two gunners is the SU-8. I want my cookie.

[petrmisek]

Hmmm. I lost my cookie. O-I has two radioman btw

[Shrike]

I'm fortunate going forward that most of my crew set-ups are well-grounded in the basics, and I have a lot of crews on in the ninth percentile of their current skill, so I'll just start adding the new stuff at that point. It's the serious clan warriors who are looking at this and say fk my life.

[tankerock]

The only tanks I have Concentration on are SPGs

[ramrod]

The skill that seems a bit too strong to me is the Engineer skill. The rest of them I don't see enough advantage that I would have to drop a current skill to get it. Players will have to prioritize their choices just as they have always had to. Maybe in one of the two more upcoming stages of crew 2.0 they will address skill training progression to ease the requirements for skills after the fifth skill. I would like to see more retraining orders, perhaps along the lines of one order for every one thousand games you have played which rewards players who have played a lot and thusly have more invested into their crews than those with less games. It would not seem right for a player with 15K games to get the same number of orders as a player with 60K games.

[gregh]

its 80, 000 gold to change 100 tanks (4 man crew) to new system.... FU WG. Not one more cent

[Shrike]

Some French tanks have loader and radioman combined.

[Shrike]

Some French tanks have loader and radioman combined

[shinraddkindheart]

This update is a complete TRAVESTY and FILLED WITH GREED!! I agree with some things, new TDs, moveable cover, no penalty for dead crew members at the end of the battle, but so many things are just PLAIN WRONG!! Let me make one point about the "Random Events" that will happen in battles... THESE RANDOM EVENTS ARE NOT RANDOM! These events happen in a SPECIFIC PLACE, at a SPECIFIC TIME! So, these events will be learned and countered by players after the first couple weeks. If a plane always crashes in the same spot after 3 MINUTES of a battle starting, we will all adapt to this, because it is NOT RANDOM!!! WARGAMING, you have proven that this update DOESN'T promote new players coming into the game, NOR does it make this crew system EASIER to understand, it ONLY MAKES IT HARDER!

I DO NOT plan on grinding and playing my AMX ELC for 25, 000 years just so I can be competitive against other light tanks in the same tier who have more than 2 crew members in their tanks of the same tier! Wargaming is indeed MONEY GRABBING! What I find even MORE SAD about these changes, is Wargaming's lack of respect for all of us, the players in WoT, who are going to be completely screwed trying to retrain all of our crews because of Wargaming's COMPLETE Bull-crap offer of giving us 12 retraining orders! 12 retrains?? What a slap in all of our faces!!

WHY WOULD I RECOMMEND this game to anyone?? Don't get me started on the SUBSCRIPTION issue with this new WOT+ (monthly paid) plan!!! FREE GOLD? FREE BOND EQUIP TRANSFER??? WARGAMING is disrespecting ALL the current players!! NEW players will LEAVE the game right away after being OUT-GUNNED and COMPLETELY STOMPED!! These changes and new crew skills will be, especially to NEW PLAYERS just joining the game, completely UNFAIR! I'm appalled that Wargaming spins this as making the game more diverse, easier to understand for new players, and this will let all the players have MORE FUN!! There is nothing FUN about these changes, and if new players don't have fun, they will NOT PLAY WoT when they can play another game that really is A MORE EVEN PLAYING FIELD, and MORE FUN for new players also!! These changes will impact everyone, new & old players, in a negative way!

NOW I NEED TO GRIND EACH TANK I HAVE TO GET AT LEAST ANOTHER 2-4 SKILLS???? Who has 3.14 years to grind their Manticore playing 24HOURS/7DAYS for 3 years just so that this light tank can be competitive with other tier 10 lights (or tier 8 & 9 lights, depending on the battle)? This update is SUPPOSED TO MAKE CREW SKILLS EASIER to anyone playing the game!! This Update doesn't help NEW players catch up to players who have been playing for 10 years! This update hurts old players who HAVE SO MANY TANKS, now they have to retrain so many crew members (and they only get 12 retrains remember, 12!), that they will be forced to buy gold just to keep their tanks up to date (AND ALSO FORCES OLD PLAYERS TO GRIND EACH TANK FOR AT LEAST 2-4 MORE SKILLS!!!

This UPDATE only benefits Wargaming! No inclusion, no diversity; this update only promotes a bigger disparity between new and old players, and unfortunately, this update doesn't ADD FUN TO THE GAME!!! All this update is for, is to line WARGAMING's pockets with money, and give EVERY PLAYER, new or old, a HUGE MIDDLE FINGER!! Wargaming, YOU MUST BE COMPLETELY INGNORING PLAYERS FEEDBACK TO UPDATE a game that doesn't take FAIR, REASONABLE, and THOUGHTFUL feedback from its PLAYER BASE! I've played WoT for a long time now, and THIS UPDATE might push ME away from playing the game for good! I REFUSE TO PLAY a game where WARGAMING'S GOAL is to force me to play 26, 000 YEARS, (24/7- SO, NOT ONLY DO I NEED TO BE IMMORTAL, I CAN'T EVEN SLEEP), so I can get 1 tank (ELC AMX) to be competitive in a battle against other light tanks who have more crew members!!! What a lack of foresight, what a lack of listening to feedback, what a lack of thoughtfulness!!

WARGAMING, I have 2 words for you concerning this update, and it doesn't even scratch the surface of your DISRESPECT FOR YOUR PLAYERS, some players who have played for over 10 years!! 10 years!! My two words are, "12 retrains?" 12 retrains?? Let me say these 2 words slower for you WARGAMING, so you understand SLOWLY what you offered us, with SUCH ENTHUSIASM!!! 12.... Retrains.... 12.... Retrains.... WARGAMING, from know on, I pledge to NEVER CALL YOU BY YOUR NAME EVER AGAIN.... I NOW DUB WARGAMING: WG12R Thank you for showing us this unfairness and uneven playing ability that isn't even skill based! WG12R has just totally disrespected every player in WoT! My suggestion, maybe it's time for all of us to find ANOTHER GAME where the developers of that game THINK ABOUT THE PLAYERS, TAKE OUR FEEDBACK, AND FOCUS ON RESPECTING THEIR PLAYERS, new and old, TO MAKE THE GAME MORE FUN AND EASIER TO UNDERSTAND!!! I will not recommend this game to anyone, I'm flabbergasted by this proposed update by WG12R!!!! Seriously, FU WG12R, FU Royally!!!!