The MAGA CHAOS Machine! | Rick Wilson w Will Saletan

The chaos isn’t slowing down, it’s accelerating. In this episode Rick is joined by Will Saletan from The Bulwark to dissect the unfolding turmoil in D.C. and beyond. They discuss Elon Musk's growing influence, Trump's erratic decision-making, the GOP’s shift toward isolationism, and the potential global and domestic fallout from these radical changes. From economic instability and foreign policy upheaval to the looming dangers of reckless governance, the two break down the woodchipper-like destruction of key institutions and its long-term consequences.

Timestamps:

(00:00:00) Intro

(00:01:17) Where does the DOGE arc end?

(00:07:13) Trump's attitude toward Europeans

(00:14:00) MAGA and expanding the American empire

(00:18:31) "Burn it all down, we'll figure it out later"

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[garyparker]

The silence from congress in all of this is disgusting.

[steviecrow]

Rick, you are a thorn in the side of Trump and we are all here for it. 🇺🇸💙🇺🇸

Anyone who has Will Saletan on deserves a subscribe.

[gfcu-]

Canada"maybe". We Canadians are eager to align against MAGA and for NATO

[mikegrisafi]

I could have never imagined a scenario in my life where Europe building a nuclear deterrance against the US was even a remotely plausible conversation.

But here we are. Great to see Rick and Will chatting. Hope to see more!

[HeidiSchwendeWSI]

Rick we need you desperately in the mainstream media. They're not serious people.

[douglasthomson]

My mother was in care for senile dementia for the last eight years of her life and Trump gave me flashbacks. My opinion on his mental state has not changed.

[SeattleGirlMakesGood]

I hope we continue to hear from you both! Americans need to wake up, educate themselves, gather, protest, rinse and, repeat!

[urkiddingme]

He doesn't understand anything but money, and he doesn't understand money either. Good summation.

[thinktwice-meie]

What a beautiful discussion. Thank you

[heidihill]

Excellent discussion. You have made my depression worse.

[opsan]

Thanks for the team up of intelligent conversations.

[theresaengel]

I like Will's perspectives a lot...

[prestonpfeiffer]

Trump will have so much blood on his hands when this is over. People have always accepted he’s a carny and a con man but his brand of villain is getting disturbingly dark.

[pohkeee]

To him everyone is an enemy, unless they’re a bully he admires.

[whatisgoingon]

Will is very smart at analyzing all this. Maga hurts my brain.

[cristinadelllano]

My two favorite people Will Saletan and the Rick Scott

[medeology]

29:00 The US just sent out a questionnaire to European countries asking us about our defense inventories, what material, how much ammo, what troops we have ready and what we can spare, what we can send to Ukraine etc.

NOBODY is answering that. We will send a joint answer from all of us together. It's truly catastrophic that everyone understands why. Including Russia.

[chkemeny]

There is no reason except chaos and nihlism... and stupidity. I hope we can restore the transatlantic relationship then in the next ten years.