Game Theory: Joel's Choice Meant Nothing! (The Last of Us)

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The Last of Us is one of the most gut wrenching games to come out in recent memory and, since The Last of Us Part 2 is out now, what better time to sink my teeth into this franchise! You know that gut punch, emotional rollercoaster ride I was just talking about? What if I told you that your final choice of the game to save Ellie or let her die to save the world was WRONG? What do I mean? Get ready Theorists, I'm about to blow your mind!

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Credits:
Writers: Matthew Patrick and Justin Kuiper  
Editors: Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick and Forrest Lee
Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

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When Ellie was tuning the guitar, I said sarcastically "Oh, I bet she's gonna play Megalovania."
As soon as I heard those four notes, I fell out of my chair laughing.

TheNexus
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Fun fact: a doctor reacted to this game and he said he would never kill a person to make a vaccine. He said it’s immoral and unnecessary. According to him, there are numerous ways to make a vaccine without killing Ellie... just putting that out there.

WKANDAEVR
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im astonished by how well matpat explained viruses and fungi without making it complicated

noam
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An ER Doctor actually confirmed after reacting to TLoUPII that they wouldn't risk killing an individual for a vaccine because they'd find another way, and it's impractical. Joel's decision saved her life. One of the few problems that came out of Joel's decision was Ellie's desire to make her death matter, and how she felt like he took it from her. During the game it was made clear that the Doctors weren't professionals so Joel DID save her life, because they would've killed her in the process of figuring out how to obtain the cure and her death would've been meaningless in terms of finding a vaccine.

SW
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"The fireflies were just idiots." It carries so much meaning and delivery.

ailehunter
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Hypothetically, let's say they go through with the surgery and are successful in finding a cure. What kind of resources would they actually have to continue to manufacture additional vaccines?

guitardedzach
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imagine being one of those ants and being conscious like “ay bruh i gotta get back to the colony...no wait wtf wrong way ahaha not cool no seriously stop STOP IT AINT FUNNY”

madyjohnston
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The fact that Jerry the surgeon saved zebra and then within a minute decided to kill a child… this just tells everything about this hypocrite

chickennugget
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"Viruses are not the same as Fungi"
People who've played plague Inc: please, I'm not a child

devilsadvocate
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so every time someone gets vaccinated their immune system says “just like the simulations “

fishyyy
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If the Lord give Joel another chance to save Ellie he would do it again.

aura
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Everyone seems to forget that Ellie never gave consent to their medical experimentation/literal murder

callunas
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Matpat: viruses are like zombies on a cellular level
Cells at work: Been there, do not want to go back.

stephoink
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Joel: wht are you doing kiddo?
Elli: I'm gonna give every last one of them a bad time
Joel: uhhh... wrong game?

e.maleki
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Intro: *plays a short megalovania* Me: Okay I’m hooked.

codexastral
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OMG Finally someone has hit on the thing that has annoyed me most about that game. Keeping Ellie alive should be the fireflies priority. They should be trying to figure out what unique pathophysiology is at play with Ellie. She could have a similar but benign strain of the fungus that chokes out other versions, or unique antibodies, either way you need her alive to find out. If I were Joel, I would object to this procedure on multiple levels, first being a parent its in my programming to protect children especially one who has not given informed consent, nor is old enough to do so. Then we get into moral issues, after all that, we get to why your science sucks.

tbfromsd
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MatPat: talking about the difference between Viruses and Fungi

Plague Inc players: *the expert*

TheAkumuKing
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I feel like a lot of people who were bitten would’ve either killed themselves or been killed before they found out if they were immune or not. It’s not like a zombie is gonna bite you then run away after.

almostdangerous
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This wasn't a "Game Theory"




This man is just spitting straight fax

collnes
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It's worth mentioning, since I haven't seen any other comments about it. You can tell they didn't know what they were doing because Joel couldn't have been knocked out for more than a few hours to a day, that's not nearly long enough to warrant chopping her brain to bits. Also, they almost fricken killed her when they knocked Joel out, who was clearly doing chest compressions and not being even remotely threatening whatsoever. They didn't even get to see her brain and how it functioned when she was awake.

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