AI debates Christian Trinity (Biblical or Illogical)

We configured the world's top large language models to engage in a debate over the most profound questions: Is the Trinity doctrine biblical? Is the Trinity doctrine illogical?

Watch as these advanced LLMs bring unique perspectives and arguments to the table, challenging beliefs and shedding light on a topic that has sparked discussions for centuries.

To make it even more interesting, we've included 14 different AI models from some of the largest companies in the world to judge each response. It'll be fascinating to see if there's any bias in their evaluations and how they each interpret the arguments.

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00:00 Round 1: Is the Trinity Doctrine Biblical?
00:25 Key Bible Verses Supporting the Trinity
02:06 Does John 1 & Matthew 28 Teach the Trinity?
03:45 Defending the Trinity: John 20 & 2 Corinthians 13
05:51 Challenging the Trinity: John 20 & Colossians 2
07:43 Biblical Defense of the Trinity: John 8 & Philippians 2
9:12 Greek Philosophy vs. Trinity: John 14 & 1 Corinthians 8
10:47 Hebrews 1 & John 10: Do These Verses Support the Trinity?
12:39 Reevaluating the Trinity: John 17 & 1 Timothy 2

Intermission - viewer question
14:34 If God is love, how did he love before creation?

Round 2: Is the Trinity Doctrine Illogical?
15:14 Logical Problems in the Trinity
16:48 One God, Three Persons, "Being" vs "Essence"
18:35 Identity Confusion in Trinitarian Doctrine
19:30 Defending Trinitarian Unity Against Tritheism
21:30 Trinity’s Logical Consistency Questioned
23:30 Greek Philosophy’s Impact on the Trinity

Footnotes
[1] Carson, D.A. (1991). The Gospel According to John. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[2] Hagner, D.A. (1995). Matthew 14-28. Word Biblical Commentary. Zondervan.
[3] Morris, L. (1995). The Gospel According to John. New International Commentary on the New Testament. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[4] Harris, M.J. (2005). The Second Epistle to the Corinthians. New International Greek Testament Commentary. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[5] O'Brien, P.T. (1982). Colossians, Philemon. Word Biblical Commentary. Word Books.
[6] Peterson, D.G. (2009). The Acts of the Apostles. The Pillar New Testament Commentary. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[7] Dunn, J.D.G. (1989). Christology in the Making: A New Testament Inquiry into the Origins of the Doctrine of the Incarnation. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[8] Wallace, D.B. (1996). Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: An Exegetical Syntax of the New Testament. Zondervan.
[9] Ehrman, B.D. (2012). The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture. Oxford University Press.
[10] Casey, M. (2010). Jesus of Nazareth: An Independent Historian's Account of His Life and Teaching. T&T Clark.
[11] Hurtado, L.W. (2003). Lord Jesus Christ: Devotion to Jesus in Earliest Christianity. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[12] Dunn, J.D.G. (1996). The Epistles to the Colossians and to Philemon: A Commentary on the Greek Text. New International Greek Testament Commentary. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[13] Keener, C.S. (2012). Acts: An Exegetical Commentary. Baker Academic.
[14] Bauckham, R. (2008). Jesus and the God of Israel: God Crucified and Other Studies on the New Testament's Christology of Divine Identity. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[15] Nolland, J. (2005). The Gospel of Matthew: A Commentary on the Greek Text. New International Greek Testament Commentary. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[16] Köstenberger, A.J. (2004). John. Baker Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament. Baker Academic.
[17] Fee, G.D. (1994). God's Empowering Presence: The Holy Spirit in the Letters of Paul. Hendrickson Publishers.
[18] Moo, D.J. (2008). The Letters to the Colossians and to Philemon. The Pillar New Testament Commentary. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[19] Thiselton, A.C. (2013). The Holy Spirit - In Biblical Teaching, through the Centuries, and Today. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[20] Brown, R.E. (1966). The Gospel According to John (I–XII): Introduction, Translation, and Notes. Anchor Bible. Doubleday.
[21] O'Brien, P.T. (1991). The Epistle to the Philippians: A Commentary on the Greek Text. New International Greek Testament Commentary. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[22] McGrath, J.F. (2001). John's Apologetic Christology: Legitimation and Development in Johannine Christology. Cambridge University Press.
[23] Martin, R.P. (1997). A Hymn of Christ: Philippians 2:5-11 in Recent Interpretation & in the Setting of Early Christian Worship. InterVarsity Press.
[24] Brown, R.E. (1970). The Gospel According to John (XIII-XXI). Anchor Bible. Doubleday.
[25] Fee, G.D. (1987). The First Epistle to the Corinthians. New International Commentary on the New Testament. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
[26] Keener, C.S. (2003). The Gospel of John: A Commentary. Hendrickson Publishers.

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[JonOleksiuk]

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[ryandaly]

These videos are criminally underrated, keep it up!

[felixalvi]

Imagine telling God about how His existence doesn’t follow the limited knowledge and understanding of his own creation‘s logical laws.

[howardparkes]

I love the trinity and this is awesome! But could you try to have with a bit more of a formal debate structure, with opening statements from both sides? It would help with the balance instead of the challenger immediately doing a rebuttal to the defender.

[MattigityIsBombigity]

I can guarantee Sam Shamoun could best these AI.

Edit: Wow, look what I started in the comments lol. I stand by what I said, Sam Shamoun is very much a warrior of Christ and impressively understands scripture, OT & NT.

[jeavoirichards]

I'm not gonna lie. Even as a Christian, I'm flabbergasted at the scores the challenger got. I really thought they were good questions since they come into my mind at time to time. The scoring is weird (to me at least) but the arguments still remain interesting.

Edit: I'm a bit disappointed that the defender didn't use old testament passages to help support her arguments. (If it was only NT this debate focused on, i missed that piece of info).
Prophesies like from Isaiah calls the Son of Man, Immanuel, which means God with us. Also the passage (I don't recall it) where we read the Father speaking to Son glorifying Him like Himself.

[kevinclint]

ONE GOD, ………THREE PERSONS, ……….GOD THE FATHER, ………GOD THE SON, ……….AND GOD THE HOLY GHOST, ………AMEN TO THAT ❤

[david-]

Please, do a Protestant vs Catholic debate 🙏🏼😂

[The_Merchant_Of_Cat]

The human biases that are programmed into the AI are the human emotions of the programmers.

[antonioreid]

Is Jesus the prophesied messiah of the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament)?

That’s a good debate!

[johan]

your vids popped up are the best part of any morning!

imagine where AI will be in 5-10 more years... we are in for such a great future!

[poisd]

This is great! You should do a debate for Catholics vs Protestant vs Orthodox! That would be awesome.

[Keener]

I know this might be out of topic with past few videos you have done about religion, god, and trinity. But I think it would be very eye opening to go for some other topics like gun laws, political parties, abortion, presidents, and much more. Also thank you for what your doing btw. its amazing content and definitely a new thing people need to be looking forward too.

[justinyork]

I've watched a couple of these and whether intentional or not, these AIs seem to have a heavy bias to Christianity despite the Atheist/Challenger making very logical and valid points. I'm not Atheist, but the challenger was making substantially better points, in my opinion, yet somehow kept losing. The grading made no sense.

[cesarbojorquez]

I cheered out loud when i saw this uploaded

[HuntShowdownLab]

I love that you included the verses on screen to assist the discussion.

[theoe]

Based AI absolutely destroys cringe heretical AI with facts and logic.

[shaddjimenez]

The Apostles were executed for what they said they have seen, and did not back down. Would all those people die for what they knew was a lie?

They said Jesus is Lord, as they saw Jesus risen from the dead, and so they were willing to die not just for a belief, but what they said they saw.

This is straight from Jesus:

“Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭6‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

[ethanstevens]

At first I thought these videos were very profound but im suspicious now of the possible biases behind the setup of the ais.

[matthewsocoollike]

Bro these bots are so biased. The LPT opening the man bot did so much better, she just gibberated and got a 44 💀