Pin to PAP Distance | BOWLING BALL LAYOUT COMPARISON 5' vs 1/2' - TruBall Reviews

This videos explains the difference in performance in two different layouts. A 5 inch and a 1/2 inch Pin to Positive Axis Point (PAP) on a symmetric bowling ball. All of the other variables were controlled in this test. If you like this type of information consider joining our free staff. Remember layout accounts for about 10% of total ball reaction.

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[myum]

Thanks for doing these "vs" videos! I have never noticed much (if any) difference in using different layouts, but maybe if I was able to throw exactly the same every single time...which you talked about other comparison videos. Having data to look at helps tone down the hype that seems to surround layouts being a significant factor in ball reaction and strength.

There are many more important factors to consider first: how you bowl, where you bowl, lane conditions, type of ball cover (grit, polish, solid, pearl...) the ball design (cover strength relative to other balls in a companies line up for intended lane conditions relative to how you bowl..., core shape). The same layout on different balls doesn't make them have the same reaction. It just won't over-ride the properties that different balls have. To really see differences that layouts can make, you have to use the same ball. These "vs" videos show that layout (using the same ball and same person and lane condition), and have very small impacts to ball reactions.

For the same ball, surface change will have the primary/major change to ball reaction - which I think may be one of the things that is being pointed out. Even that should be considered with respect to how you bowl, where you bowl, lane conditions, etc. Layouts do play a part in ball reaction, but again, this is a minimal part. Watch all the "vs" videos to get more info about the impact of different layouts.

This is more of a rhetorical question, but what do people expect from different layouts? Massive reaction change? Fine tuning of reaction? Making a ball work for you?



I really just want to be allowed to bowl again...even tossing house balls with no layout would be great!

[denmanfite]

I don't think layouts change the "scale" of ball motion. But it absolutely changes how well it gets through the pins. A bad layout seems to have more issues leaving individual pins or deflecting in undesirable ways.

[AKstryker]

Try this again with an asymmetric ball, also as everyone else has stated why change the VAL angle if they're suppose to be the exact same layout with different pin-PAP

[hoganhargrove]

Hey Ronald! I applied for the CTD Staff, and I don’t think I’ve received my post? Just wondering when that would be

[jvmiller]

polished balls won't soak up as much oil as a sanded ball. So if you use a dull ball you need to have it baked to get the oil out more often

[dannyhefner]

Would you say these short pin layouts are better for higher rev and higher speed players or can low rev players with slower speeds have success with them also?

[MNohrLarsen]

You shouldn't expect to see a big difference with those two drillings (even though I don't get why you changed the val angel). With a 0.75 pin you are getting small amounts of flair and a ball that rolls right up against a 5 pin that flair a lot but goes into a roll instead of a hook. So no. It's not a angular layout, you only change the amount of flair.

[frankiealonzo]

I can tell the difference when I use short pin it rolls like urathane

[AKstryker]

Also why are you trying to act like its a huge distance difference when they both fall in the smaller flare range for symmetrical balls? Try a 3/4 pin-PAP vs a 3 3/8s