Game Theory Optimal (GTO) Play for Poker Explained

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GTO (Game Theory Optimal) play explained in 15 minutes.
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Game theory is understanding why someone does what they do and the best counter to that. GTO is the best thing to do in a situation. Basically, there is no such thing. When people refer to GTO, they're saying what a computer would optimally do vs another computer. If you had 6 computers playing each other, none would make any long term profit. However people make mistakes and have tendencies. The point is to adjust what is mathematically correct with other information you gather from players. Which is why it's so important to vary play; so others don't pick up on your tendencies.

colintimp
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seems like GTO is for the pros, think i will let them keep it and stick to my low limit fish :P great vid btw

PeterParker-vqcz
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It seems odd to me that I clicked on a video claiming to explain GTO, and then watched the video spend significantly more time explaining exploitative play. Seems a bit like a misleading title.

jeffreytackett
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The basics of the push/fold Nash chart could have been explained better to understand the following points made.

tubewatcher
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Thank you for this clear explanation of GTO. Do you have a video on recommendations on how to get started with GTO in a baby-steps type approach?

Scott.Mariani
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Jesus Christ, the number of people in the comments that don't understand GTO is staggering.

1. There is no GTO solution for NL Hold'em
2. There are GTO solutions for reduced complexity NL Hold'em variants (which contain lessons that are relevant to NL Hold'em. See Half-street games, [0, 1] games and AKQ). There are also GTO solutions for certain situations that occur in full NL Hold'em. Bluff/Value bet ratios at the River are solved (This is not actually all that helpful, because even if it is solved the process of getting to the river such that you bet all your nut hands and bluff x% of your dead hands is not. On top of this, even if the math says you should bet x% of your dead hands in a certain situation, how are you going to randomly decide to bet? Roll a dice?)
3. Even if there were a hypothetical GTO player (that played perfectly) they would not necessarily be the "winningest" player. A hypothetical GTO player is simply un-exploitable. That is, no opponent can do anything to get an edge on a hypothetical GTO player (remember no actual GTO player exists.)
4. One of the "drawbacks" of exploitative play is that exploiting an opponents flaws typically opens you up to counter-exploitation. GTO is supposed to be a way to opt out of the exploit/counter-exploit loop and just profit from opponents making mistakes against your un-exploitable strategy.
5. One of the issues with a lot of these "partial GTO solutions" is that the underlying assumptions generating the solutions frequently give opponents too much credit.
6. Studying GTO will not help you more effectively exploit your opponents in any way shape or form. It may help you plug leaks in your game.
7. A lot of GTO solutions kind of assume you have a perfect RNG in your head. So take from that what you will.

tldr;
Don't bother studying GTO unless you're at a point where plugging leaks in your game is more important than figuring out how to exploit/punish sub-optimal play from your opponents (presumably at this stage you're very good.)

huathebard
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I find educating myself on new poker theory is definitely interesting for sure, but for practical use at the 1/2 live level at your standard casino, its all sort of over kill here! Only because your basic 1/2 player isn't all that sophisticated when it comes to the game anyways. Would you agree?

rico
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In the rock, paper, scissors, example why always choose paper when scissors beats paper some % of the time?

Liquidheavenk
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when you say at 8:40 'when your bb is more than 3.5 times', of what do you mean?

aprilnguyen
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Cool stuff, thanks for sharing. I"m reading "Theory of Poker" and wanted to learn about this topic.

McGavel
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Cool, I've never heard of an EV tree and it looks very informative to play with, like you said. Thanks for the tips.

McGavel
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U need to be explain what ev is and terms like that for new players

EthanZ
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Very interesting, have you guys saw the program from carageie univeristy where they made a program based off of nash equilibrium to play poker?

NemesisAggression
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i believe in what u are saying.... i just don't understand a lot of it... wish i was smarter

bobbob
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This vid stops making sense about half way through

tomato
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2 minutes in and you havent said a damn thing

chipped
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Your push nash chart makes no sense and did not explain it. What are numbers, eg 20+.

jcjensenllc
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"i'm not a mathematician", ok cya then...

jonavuka
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how to make a pokerstars poker bot to win you money while you drink beers at the bar-its what it looks like to me haha :D

egeayvala
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This is what happens when the geeks try to outsmart the real poker players. Its all nonsense. I will continue to play exploitative poker .

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