Fr JOSIAH TRENHAM - What Masculinity REALLY means

A conversation on the connection between masculinity and virtue with Fr Josiah Trenham. Fr Josiah starts in a surprising place to illustrate how far off we have gone from the path given the role of feminism, looking at shoulder pads in women's suits. He then goes on to illustrate a beautiful example of how men can lead with integrity and love. We particularly investigate four areas for the development of masculine virtue:

1. Participation in the divine services of the Church centered around the Eucharist
2. Sports, athletics, and military service
3. Marriage
4. Fellowship in brotherhood

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[AlexP-vu]

Finaly I'm not alone in this world who is boiling from shame when a woman in the army.

[DerekJFiedler]

The most influential women in all history didn't get a paycheck. 🤯

Great discussion.

[TheGringoSalado]

“We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.”

[SimpleAmadeus]

As I hear these two men talk about masculinity this way, I'm sensing a whole new part of life that I hadn't even realized was there. I feel a mix of desperation and hope towards it. Desperation because it's so far removed from me, because of how much I've disregarded this entire aspect of my purpose, I have not even begun to become a real man, but I also feel hope because I now know about this great treasure that would greatly contribute towards saving my soul from its miserable state, and I can start taking my first steps towards it. Thank you Father Josiah, and thank you brother Paul.

[jennyhohmann]

The Western world desperately needs this kind of masculinity.

[GiveThanks-vlco]

As a traditional woman new to Orthodoxy Truth— thank you. We are spiritually hungry— starved really, for this message. I’m shaken.

[kristenbramer]

This made me cry. I am the victim of a divorce, my ex-husband was once a good man in the army but he became lost after he was chaptered out medically and he started abusing me. Then my mother died. And my father is a very weak man. But I came home during my awful divorce, to take care of mom in her last days and then take care of my dad. So I have been for 3 years. My dad’s weakness caused him to be addicted horribly to pills and for 3 years he has been putting me through hell. But I’m still enduring. I just keep praying.

[rusty]

Thank you for this conversation. I have been seeking what it means to be an Orthodox man in this modern world, and this conversation was very helpful. Thank you.

[lillyc]

Thank you for speaking on women in the military

[notstrong]

It all started because when i have kids i want to be able to answer questions about God. Now I'm deepening my own religion.

[AlixPrappas]

May the Lord embolden you and lead you into the image of His son my brother: strong, courageous, loving, kind, and merciful

[ryanlong]

Thank you for sharing this conversation with us. I will say, I appreciate Fr Trenham's "punch to the chest" greeting, however it is important for us to always consider what we do not know. For example: I was raised to believe the importance of a firm handshake. My handshake is very important to me and not something offered lightly (no pun intended). Last year, I fractured a bone in my right hand. To this day, when I shake another man's hand, it causes pain in my hand- a reminder of my foolish outburst of anger which caused the fracture. The point is, it made me realize that I had never considered the possibility that I may not know I was causing pain to the man whose hand I was shaking (especially if he were an older fellow). Now I try to be more discerning before I squeeze the life out of someone's hand. Showing manly affection is good an all, but consider this quote: "There is nothing stronger than true gentleness. And nothing more gentle than true strength." God showed us this by His own example.

[TechnoirGraphix]

This was a really needed stream for me. May God be with you all. 👑☦️🕊️

[thebrotherofthunder]

Thank Fr Josiah for sharing the story of St Godric of Finchale. I lived in Durham for many years and never knew though I loved to visit the priory and explore the ruins.

[benweidner]

i’m 45 and want to live out whatever years the Lord gives me as a man fighting

[forrestphillips]

11:17 absolutely. I'm so happy to find someone with the same thoughts on this. I am always telling my son the importance of struggle. For instance, lifting weights. People will think of a man as being very masculine because of his muscularity, but this is a subversion of the masculine principle. As the church is the bride of Christ, performing services, movements and acts of worship, it is the body as a temple which facilitates movement of the spirit in corporeal reality. Muscularity can become a byproduct of this, but the masculine act is in the domination of one's own animal nature and irrational impulses. Men today only understand a degenerate form of masculinity dependent on the body and its functions, its pleasures. True masculinity is based in the intellect.

"We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ."
~2 Corinthians 10:5

[ModrnPhilosopher]

The things you were talking about at around the 19th minute mark about the man who copied jew practices and God sent an angel, a similar thing is happening to me, I started to repent and God started to guide me and this weekend will be my third liturgy as God led me to a great community and Church, I am looking forward to becoming a part of the Church.

[jenbrennan]

Hurray! I knew being told there is a father and a son and no female -ideal role in church could not be right. Of course there's a mother figure! ❤ Thank you!

[emanuelantunes]

As a brother in Christ who has just found your channel I want to thank you. May God bless you and guide you in continuing to bring life-giving content to the world and the Church. Brother Paul, let me also encourage you to find fellowship with brothers in Christ whom you may find in other Christian denominations, who profess the same faith in Christ and are called by His blessed name. There is much growth found in those relationships, as iron sharpens iron, so does a friend sharpen a friend (Prov. 27:17)

[grantrogers]

Pray with true sincerity and desperation to God to make us into Godly men.