AMD's New 4nm 7940HS vs M1 & M2 Pro! Apple Silicon Killer? 🤯

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AMD Said Zen 4 7940HS is 30% Faster than M1 Pro with up to 30 Hours of battery life! Truth or Cherry Picked Benchmarks?

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To me the M-chips have one biggest advantage: the ability to deliver the same performance when unplugged

tanthokg
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To me a battery life is the most important. If you compare the battery life, please do one for creators using the typical apps for them and one for regular consumers with apps like YouTube, watching movies, browsing, etc.

LuffyY
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The gpu part is wrong, pretty sure they were not talking about tflops since even the rdna 2 6800u/h/hs 680m have 3.686 tflops so this one will definitely have more.

riceflakes
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A comparison between the Ryzen 7945HX (Asus Zephyrus Duo 16 SE) vs I9 13980hx (MSI GT77 Titan HX 13V) vs M2 Pro (Apple Macbook Pro 16) would be nice. Those Laptops/Systems will be the fastest for every silicon

sukhpinderjitsinghkang
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Even RDNa2 graphics have 3.686TFLOPs, The new RDNA3 graphics should be twice as fast as 1280P.

DragonOfTheMortalKombat
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AMD can’t do a comparison to the 13th gen chips that were announced the day before, nor can they compare it to a M2 Pro if it hasn’t been released yet.

ditroia
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The Baseline TDP is 35W but you can configure the TDP on the AMD up to 45W, so no they don't consume 45W to give 20-30% advantage over the M1, i would say it's a combination of the 4nm tech and the extra 5W that adds this performance also the RDNA 3 boast 5.1 TFLOPS at normal use and the upper limit is 8.9 TFLOPS when you up the TDP on the APU to the max 45-50W so it will be able to almost reach M1 Max graphic performance even while having fewer cores and being a integrated GPU. also there were some minor mistakes made that were revised on the AMD CES keynote.

aviatedviewssound
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With the current lineup of AMD Rembrandt APUs the integrated RX 680m 12CU RDNA 2 GPU in geek bench 5 compute is closing the gap on the base model M1 pro, given that Pheonix has the same config on RDNA 3 I would expect around similar performance to the base M1 pro. Since RDNA 3 and RDNA 2 are very similar in an APU sense given the changes between them don't apply in a non-discrete package.

benjaminlindeen
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As a Dev i can use 3 emulators some chrome tabs 3-4 projects opened up on vs code and Xcode and still my m1 mac uses 40% cpu while unplugged. Not a single Windows machine I’ve tested can do that.

qasimaliabbas
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10:01 shouldn’t you compare both cpu + gpu power usage with 35-45 AMD’s watts for whole soc? Or is it just that software shows current usage on apple soc as a cpu, but actually both of them are under the stress?

chiefddd
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So what’s the comparison here? One is SOC (M1) and the other a regular chip. The relevant difference will be in terms of energy consumption.

rewanji
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Brilliant video. I hate it how companies are always trying to mask real-life performance by distorting or trimming the facts.

andrecoxa
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As long as apple dont support BIM apps, such as revit or archicad, and most used apps for architects properly, then windows is the only way to go

yoddythegreat
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The 7940HS is much more interesting to me as a desktop APU. MiniPCs are becoming more and more powerful, and having one of these in a MiniPC could well replace my desktop.

I've been gaming mainly out of my Steam Deck docked as a replacement fro my i7 7700K GTX1080 desktop, but it obviously lacks a bit of power only going to 15w TDP.

These new Dragon Range APUs are much more capable, and suck up to 45w while being new architectures on both the CPU and GPU side (CPU is two gens newer than the deck!).

Mantenner
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Not really related to this video but have you looked at svalt for mac laptop cooling???? Would like to see a review on this. Thanks, Mike

mikeboatright
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Just close the performance per watt, while retaining Ram/SSD upgrade capability that should be enough. IMO.

Will we see M chip with SSD embedded in same SoC package?
Will that be the last compromise for performance per watt?

JingSkyJoker
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Actually, I think the GPU of AMD's new APUs are way better than shown in the estimation charts, given that their last gen Ryzen 6000 iGPUs got 3.4TFlops and they are giving this generation an architecture overhaul and a lot higher clocks. How the architecture contributes to gaming performance is unknown, but if AMD's dual issue FP32 unit claims are anything to be believed, they should deliver double the teraflops of last gen at the same clocks (gaming performance don't work this way)

bfbunny
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Some healthy competition is always good!

bigsean
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AMD Phoenix is on 4nm, but this is for 45Watt and lower laptops.

AMD is also releasing high power 16 core parts that are basically the same as there Zen 4 desktop parts just limited to workstation laptop power envelopes.

pweddy
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Dude, you've totally misunderstood the term "binned chips". In the sense of the M1 Pro and Max, the M1 Max is the binned chip, and the M1 Pro is the non-binned.
Binned chips are the BEST ones, not the normal/worst ones, of the same die type and size.

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