Crisis Series #37: How Can an Indefectible Church Give us Deficient Worship?

We’ll finish our discussion from last week, all leading to the main question – how can the Church, which is indefectible, give us a rite of worship which is defective? Last week we looked at how the Church could, in fact promulgate errors through an ecumenical, non-dogmatic Council. Then we saw how the Church is not always infallible in its disciplinary laws – so today we’ll continue on that same track – looking at Liturgy. Have there been errors in Catholic Liturgy in the past? Were they corrected? What can history, and logic, tell us about the infallibility of the Church in its Liturgy? And can we be 100% certain about any of this, or does prudence have a role to play?

Next week, we’ll wrap up the conversation by looking at the magisterium of the Church, and then briefly touch on the infallibility of canonizations.

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[stevenlotz]

These SSPX priests are young and brilliant young men. Thank God for blessing us with these Holy priests.

[ransomcoates]

The SSPX should be prepared for a big influx of new parishioners.

[jaysmith]

God bless you for creating this crisis series. Logical, thoughtful and non-emotional answers to the toughest questions the faithful have ever had to deal with in the history of the Church. These all have been tremendously helpful.

[Niklaus]

The Church can not give us any defective teaching. The Modernist kabal did. It's time to speak up clearly again as Archbishop Lefebvre did.

[paisley]

I'm very thankful for and impressed by the information/explantions given by Fr. McGillivray. His knowledge and tretament of the subject matter are a testimony to the formation of SSPX priests. May God bless them all!

[mrs.delgado]

Thank you Father this episode has helped me immensely! 🙏🏽

[luissantiago]

Thank you Father! Your very detailed information concerning this matter, which has been interpretated incorrectly by many Catholics, especially those who condemn the stance and position of the FSSPX, clears up a lot of confusion. Many of these misinformed Catholics overlook and ignore, or are simply unaware that Pope Paul VI stated himself, that Vatican Council II was not a dogmatic Council, and hence not infallible and non binding. His statements concerning his New Mass would also indicate its non infallibility. The duty and purpose of the Magesterium is to guard the Church's hold of Faith and morals, from the errors and manipulation of men. For it is the temporal aspect of the Church, not its divine indefectable aspect, which is subject to human error.

[feaokautai]

Thank for Fr for faithful wisdom in Jesus Christ. Keep informing and clarify the faithfuls with moral intelligence. We pray for our faith in the TRUTH-JESUS CHRIST against evils within the Church.

[richardimon]

A great insightful and informative podcast on the current issues at hand. Thank you! Keep posting these talks.

[greatthingsUS]

The true church is where you find the faithful Bishop. A bishop that practices and teaches the faith handed down by the apostles. Faith will always be greater than obedience.

[aimeeolivieri]

Very helpful! Thank you very much ❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[donaldmorgan]

A wonderful and insightful episode. Thank you.

[carolynkimberly]

Paul V1 gave us a defective liturgy, not the Holy Church. Thank you again.

[thelostcreole]

Great series. This discusión by this inteligent Priest is way over My pay grade.

[aloyalcatholic]

I think Vatican 2 apologists like Michael Lofton have turned their gaze towards the SSPX in a critical way. I think it would be great if you could address directly some of his criticisms

[christopherus]

It seems like the best answer comes at 1:09:45.

[carolynkimberly]

Thank you. I was tempted to dismiss the entire V2 Church.

[buscandoelcatolicismo]

God bless you Andrew and Fathers. I have a question: has the FSSPX had cases of private revelations of Jesus or Mary or the saints between its members, since the beginning of the fraternity?

[blackwood]

I personally don't get why the SSPX says that the second Vatican council is not infallible, that's irrelevant, It's still authoritative and requires your submission.

[KenDelloSandro]

Unfortunately the Priests of the conciliar Church, when in seminary, were/are taught flawed and erroneous philosophy. Seems like strange subjective way of thinking, like phenomenology. They are no longer taught the correct common sense way of thinking by the great scholastic Tradition purified by the Church