Who Created Marvel: Stan Lee, Jack Kirby or Steve Ditko? || Docuseries - 20, 21 by Alex Grand

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Who Created the Marvel? Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko are the three men credited with the creation of the majority of the Marvel Universe during the 1960s Silver Age. Who did what when they created the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man, and what have they gone on record to say about who created what? Some Corrections: Pure Images 1, 1990 & Comic Book Makers 1990

🎬 Edited & Produced by Alex Grand, ©2021 Comic Book Historians. Music - Standard License. Images used in artwork ©Their Respective Copyright holders. Images used for academic purposes only.

#CBHDocuseries - 20, 21: Who Created What in Marvel Universe?

📜 Video chapters
00:00 Alex Grand Intro
00:27 Trigon Thesis
01:12 Fantastic Four & Spider-Man Credits Change
02:50 Marvel's "Writer" with the Marvel Method
03:49 Early Interviews of Who did what
04:51 1960s Spoof's Stan's writer claims
05:21 Jack Kirby Said...
05:30 Funky Flashman
06:08 Marvel's credit claims 1970s
06:17 FF Origins by Stan Lee
06:42 Kirby shared more credit at Marvel
07:58 Roy Thomas on Kirby & FF
08:30 Kirby Left Marvel
08:50 Kirby & Lee argue in 1987
09:26 Gary Groth Interview 1990
11:09 Fantastic Four Original Stan Lee script?
11:28 Lee shared credit after Kirby's death
11:44 Roy Thomas & Dick Ayers on Stan
12:20 Creation of Spider-Man
12:36 Ditko Plotting credit & Herald-Tribune
13:17 Ditko credit cut out of Spidey Cartoon
13:26 Spidey Origins by Stan Lee
14:13 Stan says Ditko invented Dr. Strange
14:49 Kirby's role in creating Spider-Man
15:17 Stan Lee grabs Spidey credit again
15:24 Eric Stanton web shooters
15:56 Joe Simon and the Fly - Spidey Costume
16:32 Kirby's Original Spider-Man Costume
17:34 Ditko visually created Spider-Man
18:05 Ditko fed up with Stan Lee
19:12 Joe Simon's Silver Spider & The Fly
20:29 C.C. Beck's Spider-Man
21:13 Stan Lee stays stubborn
22:04 Why Ditko left Spider-Man
22:58 Truth is Relative?
23:18 Conclusion

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So it would be reasonable to say Stan lee took more credit then deserved

kevinpillar
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Alex 😃 Thanks for the tremendous amount of intriguing information regarding various historical perspectives!💪

ComicExcitement
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Lee, kirby and Ditko all created the Marvel Universe. Let's leave it at that!

michaelhughes
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If not for Lee, Kirby, Ditko, Heck, Ayers, Everett, etc. Comicbooks would only be for kids! However, I liked DC Comics growing up. EVERYONE sings the praises of Marvel. But I feel DC Comics made many contributions to the Comics field. As did Archie/MLJ, Charlton, Goldkey/Dell, etc. and many other Comicbook Companies fron the 1960's, which are. Sadly no longer around!🤒🤕

michaelhughes
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To clarify my previous comment, I liked both Marvel And DC Comics growing up. I still do! Both I feel their older Comics are better. Although sometimes they put out some good Comics, if you read their reprints title s, you can sometimes feel how both companies lost something over the years. Especially after the 1980's. But I love it when they sometimes do intercompany Crossover titles!😀😄

michaelhughes
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Stan Lee is pretty much a Thomas Edison...look it up if you dont know why I make this comparison.

thedoncrazephaze
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Once Martin Goodman realised how successful Stan and co's comics were becoming I'm sure that he would have been advised by his legal guys to not let those freelancers get any credit which could be used against his company later.
Stan was possibly ORDERED, as editor and Full Time Staff member to claim all the credit for himself and therefore The Marvel Comics group.
By the early months of the Marvel Universe the waves that Siegal and Shuster were making over at DC would have been worrying him ( and other publishers) more than a little.
So, although Stan began giving certain plotting credits to chosen artists he would have to claim original conception on behalf of himself and therefore on behalf of the guy who paid his (Substantial) salary?

PaulSaether
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As much as I grew up liking Stan Lee, it seems like his stories bounce around a bit too much and claim too much to be entirely on the level.

paulmay
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Will we still be vociferously discussing this a hundred years from now? :-D

paulocosta
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I always consider Stan Lee the true mastermind at Marvel. While artists like Steve Ditko & Jack Kirby were important to the Marvel Universe, it was Stan's imagination that defined WHO the character is and WHAT he/she's all about. A good writer (ie: Stan Lee, Roy Thomas, Gerry Conway, John Francis Moore, Larry Hama) can compensate for poorly drawn comics; but a good artist (ie: Jack Kirby/John Romita, Sr./John Buscema) can NEVER make up for a poorly told tale.
Its too bad artists almost always get all the fame and attention; take DC, until recently, Bob Kane was said to be the only creator of Batman, yet Bill Finger was the one credited with developing Batman's persona and background and gave him the identity of Bruce Wayne; in fact he improved the original Batman character design.

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