Eschatology: Centered around Israel or Christ?

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In our episode, "Leaving Dispensationalism," Jon and Justin discuss how dispensationalism and covenant theology differ. One of which is their focus. Dispensationalism is highly centered around Israel, while covenant theology is very Christocentric.

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Amen. God only has one people. True Israel are those who are in Christ. Old Covenant Israel does not exist today.

ChristCenteredEschatology
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Jesus Christ is Gods Israel. Not a nation of people. He is the Seed of Abraham. Hosea 11:1, Matthew 2:15, Galatians 3, Romans 9. He alone is the true vine. We become a part of Gods Israel by being a branch in HIM by faith.

medicchrist
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Why do you guys keep bringing up this topic? Your conclusion is that this is a secondary issue, but it's one that you poke at over and over and over again. Some of us read Rom 11 and still see a coming purpose for national Isreal in finally having their eyes opened in mass to Christ to be united along with people from all nations. Is that such a detriment to the gospel that you have to confront it so often? If you don't think it's essential, please stop. It's a hindrance at least for myself in wanting to share your channel with others.

Nighthawkinlight
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Confessions and Creeds are extracted and distilled from the Bible

simonspeechley
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You don’t tell people what your eschatology is well that’s strange whatever floats your boat

DumbSheep
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What’s wrong with the millennialism is the plan of salvation does not work. God says today is the day of salvation not to put it off but millennialism really preaches that when Christ returns he’s going to set up his thousand year reins (Christ is reining now in our hearts.) and then people will be able to choose to follow them at that time, but they’ll go against him and then the end will come, but that. Don’t make any sense that does not agree with scripture. There are things that are literal in the scriptures, and then there’s things that are figurative and we must rightly divide the word of God. That’s why there’s been so many splits in the church, and they called them heretic, Heresy in Christianity denotes the formal denial or doubt of a core doctrine of the Christian faith as defined by one or more of the Christian churches.

TrustMe
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Jesus is still Lord God and Isreal`s Messiah for the world

darrenplies
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if we were grafted in as wild branches ... israel is the true branch, i think you guys have missed that point

chrisarmstrong