The Black Stone of Mecca

[EllissDeeyoume]

“Some people believe it’s a meteorite, while others insist it’s instead a meteorite.”

[kaynesovereign]

"it's not worshipping the stone. It's just desperately trying to touch it and kiss it while you literally pray towards it but totally not worship"

[roonyshekho]

That's not worshipping, and yet the same Muslim who turns crazy from seeing a black stone would accuse Hindus of worshipping cows.

[folivoraproductions]

This channel's comments were always so respectful, what the hell happened? Are the YouTube shorts people just different?

[timothymclean]

"Many scholars think that this black stone is a meteorite...Muslim tradition, however, connects it to Adam and Eve. In these accounts, the stone fell from heaven to help them find one another after they were separated..."
Those don't seem contradictory at all.

[liluths]

Kaaba was a place to worship idols, including one that was called Allah, but there were also other idols there. Haj is a preislamic pilgrim, those people even before Islam would go seven times around Kaba. After islam the idols were all broken but the tradition stayed, so it was more of a reform. Therefore many of the customs Muslim today do, are the remaining of the customs of the Pri islamic Arabia.

[elKarlo]

But is it even the same rock? It was stolen and was gone for about twenty years. What evidence is there that it is the same rock?

[سيلفرالسبستي]

People, we dont worship the rock, it's not God, it's a holy object, hence our respect for it, if anyone worships the rock like a God then he has commited idolatry.

[karaltar]

Saying Muslims worship the Kaaba is like saying Christians worship those statues of Jesus on a cross in churches.

[yseson_]

The Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelias Severus made his Roman citizens march around a sacred stone on holy days. the Senate didn't much like this or him as the tradition was considered Asian and he a Punic.
He was raised to be a priest in Syria before becoming Emperor of Rome, his semetic theophric name was the very unRoman Elagabulus (El'a-gavre-Ba'al; gavre like Gavr-El'a /Gabriel)
Enshrined Holy stones were a big part of Kana'ani (Canaanite/Phoenician) religion.
Like the Foundation stone within the Holy of Holies, the Kabba stone is pre Islamic & one such stone.
Their was one in Lebanon dedicated to the god Melecerties (Mlqrt) when the Babylonians then later the Greeks entered and destroyed their temple the Phoenicians were sent into a deep existential crisis. Many slowly switched to monotheism worshipping only their cheiftest god El/El'a alone. These invasions and subsequent existential crisis was echoed throughout the semetic world. Much of our bible is directly about this existential crisis.

[MicahScottPnD]

That's really interesting stuff, RFB! Thanks for doing what you do ❤

[thintoast]

If you put your ear to the black stone you can hear the cries of children

[nisha]

Black stone is the Shivalingam only ❤
Om Namashivaya🙏

[aleksander]

And This stone can washout your sins too.. Pure Peganism

[jayuno]

An ancient Emesa, they worshipped Elagabal in the form of a black meteorite. This meteorite made its way to Ancient Rome when Elagabalus was emperor.

There’s other Hellenic traditions that go further back of worshipping the Gods as meteors. I find it all interesting

[JustWastedHoursHere]

This ritual and the exaltation of Muhammad sure look like worship to me, despite this act being forbidden in Islam.

[alexfrideres]

Plot twist: it’s a borg cube and the crowd is circling it because they’ve all been assimilated

[Rynewulf]

I can see both perspectives melding nicely: originally being a proper shrine dating back to the beginning, then adapted as worship lapsed and re used again with Islam (if im not mistaken the Quran is a clarification on and update of proper teachings and worship, so clarifying the use of the Kaaba doesnt clash with the archaeological record of its earliest used being pre Islamic. The use of was just 'corrected' with Islam)

[alexanderbawi]

A funny fact, the ka’aba was a pagen religious symbol before Islam was created

[chippewaguy]

Just a point of comparison: Santa is in the North Pole with little elves helping build Christmas presents for nice kids.