MLM HORROR STORIES #86 | Stealing money from grandma to buy Younique mascara #ANTIMLM

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[renerice]

The Kirby rep requiring the husband to be home is probably a sales tactic. "I have to check with my spouse" is a common soft no. If you have both decision makers are present, you can't use the absent spouse as an excuse to put the sales rep off.

[darkstarable]

Anytime I hear stories about mormons I think of the one time two members showed up to my home and I answered the door in a BLUE DINOSAUR onsie. They immediately laughed so hard, I mentioned I'm a nightshift worker and they said sorry for waking me and left.

[elisabethb.]

I'm Dutch, and I've barely ever encountered MLMs in my country, and I'm starting to understand why. My culture is often criticized for being extremely direct. But a side effect of that is that people have absolutely no problem saying NO. And being told no is not taken as an insult here. Al these people talking about how to find ways to gently say no or get rid of guilt tripping sales people or missionaries is both baffling and highly amusing to me. I actually once stumbled upon an LDS video on Youtube about how to approach the Dutch for missionaries, and I found it fascinating. But it also cracked me up. For example, it explained why "How are you doing?" is not a greeting here, but a (somewhat intimate) question that people only use with aquaintaces, friends, and loved ones. So when you use it on the streets, people give you a suspicious look and get the heck away from you. It would kind of be like if a random person asked you a specific question about your health on the street. Like 'why is this stranger being creepily familiar with me?'. So all these sales tactics that were carefully curated by US corporates don't work here. Not that the Dutch are immune to sales and religion of course, but you need seriously different approaches in different countries and cultures.

[honeylis]

Aside from everything else in the story, the fact that this gal's husband left her in this situation is heartbreaking and infuriating.

[sarahissom]

1:03 I’ve heard anti mlm and anti scammer content called “white collar true crime” and I can never unhear it. It scratches exactly the same itch for me without the horror/gore/being afraid every time I step outside my house.

[ajwinberg]

The first story makes me so angry. That Mary Kay lady is not just clueless, but evil. I would have just got up and left as soon as she said "When you lose the baby." OMG! 😮

[Topo.On.Trail]

The Kirby story was mine! I'm so glad you liked it. It was surreal during the whole experience. I have two thoughts on why they wanted a couple. First, and this is very patriarchal, they figured the "man" of the household would be the decision maker on larger ticket items. Second, if they could sell us both, then it would be less likely we would return the item because the spouse was in agreement. In our case, it worked in their favor initially because I would have never bought it in the first place if my husband hadn't been so on board.

[kiterafrey]

My elementary school did book fairs. They used to take away one of your recesses a day if you didn't purchase at least one thing. I guess maybe they were getting kickbacks. I didn't want to repeat the year before when I missed recesses, so I stole $20 from my aunt. (She still holds it against me to this day almost 30 years later) to buy a pencil so I wouldn't get in trouble. When I came clean my mom marched down to the school and screamed at the principle and threatened to go to the school board or paper or something. Suddenly, there was no punishment for not purchasing from the book fair nor a punishment if you failed to sell something from the Christmas catalogue from that weird company that made kids do door to door sales each year.

Edit: And yes, after getting the pencil I put the change back in my aunt's drawer.

[DeemoandPuff]

re kurby (kirby?) reps: if they enter your home WITHOUT permission, it is trespass. if they enter with permission but you later revoke that permission by asking/telling them to leave, it IS trespass. trespass is a CRIME. call the police. <3

[jerrystauffer]

Sounds like Kirby reps are kind of like inviting a vampire in....

[rlquinn]

These stories are often filled with such infuriating behavior, but before I get too mad, Zeke's little makes me giggle. Thank you both for your work on these!

[kerriwright]

An adult in an mlm convincing a 10 year old to steal is absolutely insane. I cannot.

[acatnamedm]

Jordn and McKay (mostly post-LDS channel) just did a story about LDS/MLM pipeline. They played a couple of your clips and gave you a lovely shout out. Something not mentioned in the story is that Utah is a very friendly state to MLM companies and there are quite a few headquartered there. Also, Utah's long time Senator Orrin Hatch was instrumental in the 1970s to keep vitamins/herbal remedies out of FDA regulation which I think helped the oil based MLMs gain popularity.

[kmcm]

Kirby salespeople= vampire: do not allow them to cross your threshold. 😂😂😂

[larissabrglum]

I'm sorry, the idea of someone seeing a fat person looking out at the water over a bridge railing and assuming that the fat person wants to kill themselves is so freaking funny to me. What an absolutely ridiculous conclusion to come to. You couldn't write satire this good

[alliehansen]

I am LDS too and served a mission and I completely agree and went through all of the same stuff when I served back in 2014 and ended up going home early because the extremely controlled environment made me mentally ill and caused me to have severe PTSD that after 10 years I am still fighting to get myself under control. The mission even has a designated doctor that you are only able to see for everything that they deem an issue and that man had the nerve to call me fat and make me feel horrible about myself every chance he got that even my companions started making fun of me and making work out even harder and made comments if I ate “too much” that I became anorexic. I now permanent damage to my immune system and body that I cannot get back or reverse. I tell all the new missionaries I talk with to this day about to question the model of the system. I am an active member of the church still but I make sure that everyone hears my story in the church because if this set up is hidden then others will end up like me or worse.

[GoonRevenueServices]

I’m a Latter Day Saint and It is sadly taboo to be anti mlm because of how prevalent they are. Ive been trying my best to talk to people behind the scenes and generally, the younger generation seems to know they’re a scam.

[elisa-beary]

You’re taught to doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith was a powerful line to hear. This one had some rly important stories, as horrific as they were to hear!!

[amberdawn]

Recently LDS mission rules were changed so that missionaries can call home more often; my younger brother got to call my mom every week of his mission from 2020-2022.

But honestly, at least LDS missions are only supposed to be 18-24 months and then you go back to living regular life. In contrast, MLMs try to basically keep you until you either drop out without any money left or rise through the ranks. Business practices and religious practices should not mix and I hate hate HATE that Utah and the LDS church, both things I love and that are important to me, are also MLM breeding grounds. Somehow I have only been given an MLM business pitch a couple times in my life despite growing up LDS, but it makes me so sad that many other LDS people are not so fortunate and have even fallen for them.

Really, I grew up in the LDS church, I was taught in my family of all LDS members to ask questions and seek answers instead of just blindly following, and I am just baffled that it seems other members don't do that enough.

Signed a member of the LDS church that is also anti-MLM

[TheLondonLass]

Re: the Kirby story. I read a psychology book years ago which said that salespeople (not just Kirby ones) are generally taught to speak to a couple together. Apparently couples are easier to talk into things than if the person was on their own. Maybe because they can’t use the “I need to discuss this with my spouse first” excuse.