How Vi Created Jinx

Jinx says that Vi created Jinx, not Silco. Let's see why she said that.

#arcane #jinx #arcanenetflix

[Crunchy]

Bro you’re making me want to sink another 6 hours into watching this show

[bye_yokai]

the fact act 3 released in november and there is still content about arcane shows how good this show is

[Trick_Foxx]

Vi: "What makes you different makes you strong."
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Jinx: "I thought you could love me like you used to. Even though I'm... different."

[TryingDraw]

In Vi's perspective, I absolutely cannot fault her for any of her actions. The stream of trauma might have started was when Vi's and Powder's parents were killed, and this can basically traumatize any children, especially Powder. I believe as the result of this, Powder developed severe abandonment and anxiety issues and was very co-dependent on Vi, the only family Powder was close to. If Vi was gone, Powder would feel like she could not go on living anymore. As you said, Vi was her everything. No one could understand Powder but Vi in this dark, cruel, scary reality that no child could live on their own, physically and mentally.

In place of their late mother's, not only Vi is Powder's older sister but Vi acted almost like a mother figure to her sister. Unlike Mylo who repeatedly shunned Powder and brought down her self-esteem, she looked for validation and comfort from her older sister. Vi had always been there for her younger sister and made her feel loved and secure. It's why Powder wanted to "be ready" and go any missions in any way possible with Vi to not feel alone, even it meant she could slow the others down. When Vi, Mylo, and Claggor went off to save Vander, Powder not only felt alone and useless that she might not do anything to help them but was also very panicking of a chance of losing her loved ones again just as they lost their parents. When Powder tried to save them, instead of setting up only one explosion, she was so paranoid that her small plan wouldn't work that she set off all of them just in case. After unknowingly killing her adopted brothers and seeing her older sister standing right there, she expected Vi to be very proud of her "amazing accomplishment, " like any innocent child wanted to show off something cool and amazing to their loving parents. But when Powder did not get that and realized that she ruined things in the worst way possible, it was too much for her already-broken mind to process what just had happened. It was also all too much for Vi to take and reacted irrationally. For Powder, all she could think about was not being alone again, her worst fear came to light, desperately begging Vi to not leave her and hoping that she still loved her. At that moment, Vi might have felt like Powder was "ignorant" for "not" wanting to deal with the consequence of her action and did not even seem to apologize for what she did. "Why did YOU leave me?" This caused Vi to smack her younger sister in the face and call her a "jinx" to teach her a lesson out of anger. Vi was someone who Powder loved and looked up to so much, more than anyone in the world. Powder's mental state was destroyed what she once knew about Vi betrayed her and her mind had truly begun to crumble down to madness.

Although Powder hated herself and her name, she still would do anything to keep her mind sane and wanted to feel love again, from literally anyone, even from someone like Silco. While I imagined maybe at first Powder did not like to be called "jinx" since it was a traumatic reminder of why and how Vi "abandoned" her, Silco convinced and moulded Powder to embrace her jinx flaws and faced them instead of avoiding them. Instead of pushing away her jinx side, she should embrace it. If she's good at screwing things up, she should be proud of them, and not let Vi's negative words and actions crumble her down. To Jinx, Powder was a weakness and nobody wanted Powder. But someone loved Jinx and accepted Jinx, and that was Silco. Again, Powder/Jinx just wanted to feel loved and be accepted no matter what, not caring if her actions were good or not.

For Vi's side, it's unfortunate for her that she could barely grasp Jinx's new identity, only meeting her three times in total for season 1. When the two sisters reunited, things seemed to be going well (before Caitlyn showed up) and this gave Vi hope that she could help Powder/Jinx recover from her trauma. However, Vi was very alarmed by how mentally messed-up and unstable her younger sister truly was after their years of separation. Understandable, Vi was under the impression that Silco took advantage of Jinx's broken state and wanted him to stay away from Powder/Jinx. Vi felt so guilty that she called her own sister a "jinx" and that cursed name forever scared Powder/Jinx. Vi wanted to do everything she could to redeem her action and promised Vander's wish that she would "take care of Powder". Vander's dying breath was wanting Vi to protect Powder. The Powder who Vi remembered a long time ago, was at least happy whenever the two sisters were together a long time ago in the past. Jinx, on the other hand, was broken and always depressed, conflicted, and traumatized in the present. Hence, Vi wanted Powder instead of Jinx, thinking it was better to be Powder than Jinx in order for her to be happy. If Vi could not save Powder, what else did she have to fight for? Vi did state that she was always thought about her younger sister and talked about her regret when she was in prison. Each time Jinx held onto that cursed name, it only hurt Vi how much her word and action negatively affected her sister deeply for years, and how she could not take that back anymore. Vi wanted Powder/Jinx to at least be happy somehow and someway but again, because of how different Jinx is now, Vi does not know how to make her happy anymore, without hurting innocent people for the sake of keeping up the name Jinx.

In the "tea party" scene, there's a big contrast between Powder accidentally killing her adopted family and Jinx accidentally killing Silco. I imagine Jinx expected to be harshly criticized by Silco for killing him, just as Vi took out her rage at her sister for killing Mylo and Claggor. But unlike Vi, Silco was not angry at Jinx at all and reassured her in a very loving, consoling soft tone even when he was killed by his own adopted daughter. Vi seemed to reject Powder for being herself when she only tried to help and her explosions killed their adoptive brothers. Silco was the opposite and reassured Jinx that she was perfect and wanted her to continue being herself, before he succumbed to his wounds and died.

That was why Jinx chose the "Jinx chair." Silco loved his adoptive daughter's current self and was not angry at her in any way, understanding Powder/Jinx more than Vi could at that time. He was there for Powder/Jinx in the lowest points of her life.

[jasonlu]

btw wtf is wrong her parents? First child : "Let's name her violet, our wonderful baby deserve a beautiful name" Second child : "Meh, powder I guess" If I'm named powder I would be blowing shit up too.

[ClockMonsterLA]

Yeah, I guess it all comes down to the fact that teenagers aren't qualified to be good parents. No reasonable culture on Earth would argue otherwise. Vi did the best she could given her circumstances, and it would be far more fair to say that it was the circumstances of life in the undercity that ultimately created Jinx, not any one person.

[nicole_]

3:31 The answer is not that Vi needed to do a better job caretaking. She did the best she could. Someone (Vander) needed to tell Vi that her worth wasn't entirely wrapped up in being the caretaker. That's how Powder would've gotten space to become more self sufficient, and Vi would've been more accepting of whoever Powder grew into.

[dodger-sinnravensilver]

I personally don't agree with your view on why Vi gave the bunny to Powder
I feel that this bunny meant something to Vi and for her to give it to Powder was something actually deeper, Vi was going to turn herself in and Powder is very dependent on her so she doesn't want to leave Powder 'on her own' so she gives Powder the one materialistic object that held any meaning to her, sort of like giving Powder a piece of herself. Like saying I'm going away but I will never leave you and as long ad you have this we will always be together. Vi understands that she plays an important role for Powder and it's her responsibility so to say to look out for her and that is initially what she is doing by wanting to turn herself in, she needs to do what needs to be done ro protect everyone and do what's right but she also knows that she can't abandon Powder

[selfsabotagingbanana]

I always assumed she chose the Jinx chair because Silco helped her accepting herself as the person she already was at that moment - still Vis sister, but not harmless little Powder any more. I mean there was no way Vi could undo 5 to 10 years of unresolved trauma and constant manipulation anyway.
By blowing up the council she then took revenge on Piltover for all the bad things that happened to her and that turned her into a violent monster.

[alwaysyouramanda]

I think powder had it inside of her all along. They didn’t so much as create her as they did empower her to be released. Genius borders madness.

[StevenAndolf]

Good points in the video! I think that even if Vi had stayed and not hit her, Powder would still had been really messed up. The guilt and remorse were to much for a child, with an already low self-confidence to carry.

[otakuhime]

Seeing how Powder turned out, I guess you could also say that it was a result of the Topside neglecting the Underside. If the Underside wasn't so cruel, scary, and a terrible place where violent and vicious people like Silco ran amok, a child wouldn't be corrupted so thoroughly. She never would have lost her parents, never would have had to go on a heist, never had to create explosives that led to such a tragedy, and she never would have been put through the situation where her family was taken away by an evil guy.

I think this is also a good reminder of how messed up the Underside can be. While Topside is progressing and their people are thriving, and they have the time to grow up well and have the compassion to make "peace" with the Underside after many years, shit is going down and the people down in the Underside are rotting and dying. Fighting for every moment to live.

[IshidaSado]

I'd argue that there was a person that could accept both Powder and Jinx. It was Silco. Powder isnt souly defined by her love for Vi, in fact, Jinx loves Vi as well. Powder and Jinx can and do exist as a single identity rather than 2 sperate (but I'm not getting into the nuances of that right now) Powder is seen within Jinx all of the time when she softens or temporarily doesn't hear the voices, such as when she opens up to Silco about what happened with the first mission, when Silco baptizes her and when she's having the time of her life working on her bombs. Silco never once cast any of that in a negative light. He never told her she "wasn't herself" or that he "knows jinx is in there deep down" as Vi did with Jinx. Of course he tells her to "let Powder die" but that's his way of helping with her panic attacks and hallucinations. He didn't want that sweet innocent side of her to die. He wanted the fears and debilitating regrets associated with it to die because he knows what that's like. Hell, he doesn't even reject the part of her that loves Vi (bc he very obviously still loves vander and can understand that) it just sends him into a "oh my god, I don't want jinx to leave me" panic. Compare that to Vi, who actively tries to make Jinx stay soft, sweet and innocent due to her dislike for Jinx's mental illness, combat abilities, and love of Silco (who she views as evil)

Silco only wanted to manage Jinx's mental illness and continue to live his life with Jinx as both sweet Powder and hardened Jinx. Vi wanted to make hardened Jinx go away so she could live her life with sweet Powder.

This is what made Silcos death hit twice as hard. His dying words he spoke to her were "Don't cry. You're perfect" Letting her know that she was perfect as she was, as both Powder and Jinx. To suggest any different would be doing Silcos death a disservice. He was the one that lived with and learned to love both Powder and Jinx. Vi had only ever known her sweet Powder.

[JenniferFuss]

I can't agree with the assessment.
Vi was a literal child / lost teenager who hasn't figured herself sufficiently out, as Vander pointed out.
Vi was actually a good parent figure, going by the flashbacks we got (going by a psychiartist). From the portrayla auf Powders character, just taking her toys along wouldn't have been acceptable. It would have further denied Powder the possibilty to learn, like with that roof jumping exercise. It would have likely lead to more mockery by Milo.
Vi was at the moment she oversteped traumatized by 3 deaths of family members seeing it was Powder (with her spotting the monkey head), having a dislocated shoulder and 2 1/2 near death experiences. I argue there are almost no grownups who'd acted differently put in Vi's situation and some who'd acted worse.
Powder actually had another parental figure in Vander, who isn't considered in discussions like this at all.

After the time jump Vi lacked a ton of information and the situations got either escalated without Vi even having the option to change anything or escalated because Jinx literally can't allow Vi any other attachment then to herself. The reading that Vi got somehow surprised that Jinx can fight is imho absurd. They literally fought before together, quite successfully. What does change is that Jinx get into a quite happy murder mode.

Last of all, Jinx is a grown up at the end. You can't point every personal failure on another person - which you wish to further abuse - and deny any and all personal responsibility.

[randomdreamer]

though Vi did participate in the creation of Jinx, i think Jinx is wrong she said Silco didn't create her new persona.

Silco taught Powder to be like him, creating Jinx in the process. heck, he's the one who put her in that toxic lake because he's been in it and it "killed the weak part of him" and he wanted Jinx to kill her weak side, her Powder side as well.
he's also probably the one that told her that all violence is okay to achieve your goals. i mean, Powder was never violent, right ?
this mindset did make Jinx stronger than Powder was, and i think that's why she doesn't see that Silco is a part of the creation of Jinx. to her, he made her strong, that's all she sees so she only thinks Vi is to blame because of all that happened in episode 3.

honestly, it's Powder's whole story that created Jinx. it's Vi being that model to her, creating this anxious attachment. (this wasn't intentional though, Vi probably didn't know how deep this attachment was, she just knew her sister looked up to her). it's Mylo, always putting her down. it's Vi when she left her for a bit to calm down and not hurt her more in the end of ep3. it's Marcus when he took Vi to prison so she couldn't go back to her sister as she wanted to. and finally, it's Silco who found her, adopted her and raised her into Jinx.

[axlemoo]

i’m pretty sure silco would’ve still loved jinx if she chose to sit on the “powder” chair. when she was in a crisis trying to decide her true identity, she couldn’t choose and blindly shot silco. when silco told her that she was perfect, it didn’t matter to him if she chose powder. he unconditionally loves jinx as she is. the only reason why silco couldn’t accept jinx still loving vi was the thought of losing her. silco also has abandonment issues, just like jinx. that’s why in the tea party scene he reminds jinx that everyone will continue to betray them, and even attempting to shoot vi, hoping he wouldn’t lose jinx, the only person he truly cared for.

[Galimeer]

Piltover created Jinx. The exploitative nature of the relationship between Piltover and Zaun created a ticking time bomb. Jinx is the embodiment of that bomb and the explosion that brings Piltover to the ground.

It's the classic story of a mad scientist creating a monster, and the monster kills the scientist.

[Jasminebegoa-lgjt]

Vi had so much pressure on her and forced to be like a second parent for ALL her siblings. She was agrieving child yet no one sees her pain, not even you, cause it's hidden while show clearly centers around jinx.

[xElvirax]

Silco didnt love jinx at the end, he loved her as his daughter. He was the only person that loved her with all her flaws

And that's why her powder side in a way dies with him, and she automatically chooses jinx.

But make no mistake. Jinx is still powder. Serious trauma can do that to you. It's called arrested development.

[Mar_Morto]

Being the youngest of the family I often happened to be treated with if I were still a suckling, not from much annoyance but in the long run it consumes you and I can totally see how much that have deeply impacted Powder/Jinx's life since She wanted so badly to be indipendent but She was kept inside a "cage" also for the notoriety of Zaun and the monsters It create.